DerrenIsRight
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Tl;dr. Derren was right, the contradictions and lack of clarification in D&D 5e in no way makes it "better".
I created a profile here, with just the single (for now) purpose of expressing, 5 years later, that Derren was absolutely correct. And what an absolute flood of B*S* that he had to deal with in this thread.
What an absurd stream of intentionally/unintentionally misunderstanding comments. Of course having a comprehensive frame of well thought out rules, that the GM can then chose to bend and forego as needed, is always better, than no one knowing wtf is going on.
I don't look at the clusterf**k that is the contradictions and lack of clarification of PHB, DMG etc, and go "oh how great that no one knows how to do anything". Derren is absolutely right that with a solid frame, the GM can then just CHOSE to follow, or scratch rules however he sees fit. But the upside to having a D&D with a solid frame of rules, is that it imo takes pressure off of the GM because the players can then just follow the basics, and don't have to rely on the already burdened GM to almost (exaggerating to get my point across here) invent the entire game of D&D him/herself. Why even bother buying the books, if they are just suggestions? (again exaggerating to make a point)
Last but not least, my beef at this point isn't primarily with WotC and their "hand waved" 5e. I understand the large amount of work creating the basis for a game like D&D entails. No, my primary beef, is with the people who insist that it's a better game because of it. It's not. But it is remarkably less time consuming and cheaper to create something with "less moving parts" or less variables, because the more things you have in a system, the more complex it becomes. And that might not be for everyone, I wouldn't enjoy a game that had as many variables as I hear 3.5 had when it came to combat, but the assertion that D&D 5e is automatically better, because of it being less complex is ridiculous imo. - Rant over. And sorry for offending.
I created a profile here, with just the single (for now) purpose of expressing, 5 years later, that Derren was absolutely correct. And what an absolute flood of B*S* that he had to deal with in this thread.
What an absurd stream of intentionally/unintentionally misunderstanding comments. Of course having a comprehensive frame of well thought out rules, that the GM can then chose to bend and forego as needed, is always better, than no one knowing wtf is going on.
I don't look at the clusterf**k that is the contradictions and lack of clarification of PHB, DMG etc, and go "oh how great that no one knows how to do anything". Derren is absolutely right that with a solid frame, the GM can then just CHOSE to follow, or scratch rules however he sees fit. But the upside to having a D&D with a solid frame of rules, is that it imo takes pressure off of the GM because the players can then just follow the basics, and don't have to rely on the already burdened GM to almost (exaggerating to get my point across here) invent the entire game of D&D him/herself. Why even bother buying the books, if they are just suggestions? (again exaggerating to make a point)
Last but not least, my beef at this point isn't primarily with WotC and their "hand waved" 5e. I understand the large amount of work creating the basis for a game like D&D entails. No, my primary beef, is with the people who insist that it's a better game because of it. It's not. But it is remarkably less time consuming and cheaper to create something with "less moving parts" or less variables, because the more things you have in a system, the more complex it becomes. And that might not be for everyone, I wouldn't enjoy a game that had as many variables as I hear 3.5 had when it came to combat, but the assertion that D&D 5e is automatically better, because of it being less complex is ridiculous imo. - Rant over. And sorry for offending.