New Rise of Skywalker trailer

[Gradine]

This is why we can't have things.

 

[Mercurius]

Oh, god. Is it going to be this thread yet again? We all know every dismal, dreary beat of that conversation. Sometimes I wish the internet would take a break from parodying itself.

Unfortunately (well, fortunately) I haven't ready every thread or conversation on the internet. But thanks for the jab.

Anyhow, that wasn't really my main point - but you made it central, therefore continuing on that conversation you profess to detest.

 

[Morrus]

Unfortunately (well, fortunately) I haven't ready every thread or conversation on the internet. But thanks for the jab.

It takes over 100% of all cinversations on the internet about Star Wars, including 100% of all conversations we try to have here about it.

 

[Mercurius]

It takes over 100% of all cinversations on the internet about Star Wars, including 100% of all conversations we try to have here about it.

Well, considering that this is a thread about the trailer to the new movie and it shows a dark side version of Rey, it does have some relevance. And considering she's the main character in episodes 7-9, who she is and how she's portrayed are kind of central to any conversation of Star Wars.

But ignore the term "Mary Sue" and instead focus on nuance, depth, character weakness; or compare her to Leia. This dark side "revelation" (or hint) could be any number of things: a gimmick, a major plot twist, an attempt to bring greater nuance to Rey, and more. Who knows, maybe she's going undercover in order to defeat some previously unknown Dark Side superpower. Or maybe she figures its the only way to save Kylo Ren, to meet him in his darkness, or maybe...

 

[trappedslider]

This dark side "revelation" (or hint) could be any number of things: a gimmick, a major plot twist, an attempt to bring greater nuance to Rey, and more. Who knows, maybe she's going undercover in order to defeat some previously unknown Dark Side superpower. Or maybe she figures its the only way to save Kylo Ren, to meet him in his darkness, or maybe...

didn't you see

Oh look, a dream sequence.

it's a dream sequence.. apparently legatus knows more than we do but isn't sharing links or anything to back it up.

 

[billd91]

But whereas Luke was filled with self-doubt and temptations of the dark side, so far Rey seems lacking in any kind of character weakness. Where Luke had to develop his skills over time, with many trials and errors, Rey was somewhat of a skilled fighter pilot and fully-formed Jedi Master from the start.

Typical load of garbage holding Rey to a standard nobody holds any other (read "Male") action hero.

 

[Mercurius]

Typical load of garbage holding Rey to a standard nobody holds any other (read "Male") action hero.

Nice strawman there, but nope. These aren't the droids you're looking for.

I said nothing about what standards I hold for male action heroes - I only compared her to Luke, who was a more flawed hero than Rey is.

 

[Salthorae]

Luke might have started out a bit whiny, but he was very competent when we meet him in ANH.

He was a skilled mechanic and pilot at the least. He used to bullseye wimp rats in his t16 back home remember? And he manages to more than hold his own against trained Tie pilots of the Imperial Navy + Darth Vader himself in that trench run.

Just after that on Hoth he force pulls the lightsaber to himself with no training just a ghostly voice.

I think you’ve got some rose colored glasses on how skilled Luke was or wasn’t when we first meet him in ANH and how quickly his own Force powers developed without real training as well.

 

[Hussar]

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where Leia is a complex character with depth and nuance,
/snip

BWAHAHAHA. I'm sorry, but, you actually made me laugh out loud here. "Depth and nuance"? Where? Good grief, this is Star Wars. The characters are so shallow that puddles look at them and giggle. Good grief.

 

[Tonguez]