Star Trek: Section 31

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Yeah. All the Star Trek “stuff” is missing.

It’s the one problem I had with Skeleton Crew. Aside from the lightsaber and a couple of bring canes you’d never know it was Star Wars. SC was fun at least though.

This had no phasers, warp drives, Starfleet (except by name check)… it could have been any b-movie sci-fi flick. Maybe that’s just me though. Star Trek is Starfleet for me I guess.

I think it might be interesting and possible to do a non-Starfleet Star Trek, but this movie had too little of what seems core to the identity of Star Trek. The characters seem mostly outsiders of the Federation or Starfleet - except Garret, and they deal with mostly people outside Starfleet and the Federation, and nothing in the story really identifies with any Federation morals or ethics.
As little as we know about them from Picard, the Fenris Rangers might be a better start, because they might not care for the Prime Directive, but they seem to have the same "humanist" values.

There isn't really any moral dilemma's to solve, the villain is clearly planning bad stuff that needs to be stopped and he has no real justification to offer for it.

I think it would have been a great twist if the villain reveals that he actually doesn't intend to use the weapon the Federation, but against the Terran Empire, that would have been a great twist. Section 31 might realize that the Terran Empire could be a real threat and ask Georgiou to let him succeed, but the team realizing that they can't condone an entire quadrant to death just because the Terran Empire is evil. That's just genocide, and would kill way more than just the Empire. It wouldn't really require much change to the script or what was filmed, even.

 

[Morrus]

At least Strange New Worlds is back soon!

 

[Dire Bare]

I think it would have been a great twist if the villain reveals that he actually doesn't intend to use the weapon the Federation, but against the Terran Empire, that would have been a great twist.

I was actually thinking the story might go this way . . . but, sadly no.

 

[Mallus]

It’s the one problem I had with Skeleton Crew. Aside from the lightsaber and a couple of bring canes you’d never know it was Star Wars. SC was fun at least though.

But the 1980s Spielberg came through loud and clear in Skeleton Crew, which is what they were shooting for. It’s the promised Spielberg Star Wars movie we never got.

 

[bloodtide]

It is not even close to a "Star Trek" anything. Other then a couple name drops. It is just another copy of Suicide Squad, Guardians of the Galaxy, Star Wars and so forth. It is just a generic Sci fi movie...."Rebel Moon Three".

But then as a movie......sigh......Ragtag bunch of misfits and saving the universe, are both so over done.

And even worse.........................the movie is so boring.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

But the 1980s Spielberg came through loud and clear in Skeleton Crew, which is what they were shooting for. It’s the promised Spielberg Star Wars movie we never got.

As a retelling of a classic narrative, relocated to space, aimed at a younger viewership, one could argue that it’s closer to the original movie than anything else in the franchise.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

As a retelling of a classic narrative, relocated to space, aimed at a younger viewership, one could argue that it’s closer to the original movie than anything else in the franchise.

I don't think that would be a very good argument, personally, because that's not what Lucas was aiming for with the OT, by his own (extensive) description.

That's what Lucas was aiming for with the PT, by his own (extensive) description.