New Rise of Skywalker trailer

[Zardnaar]

Or they fully embrace the old Dark Empire comic and have Rey pretending to go evil in order to ingratiate herself with the reborn Emperor.

Luke did go dark side there, Leia dragged him back to the light.

There's various ways for them to do it.

1. Force vision.
2. Possession
3. Clone
4. She pretends
5. She actually goes dark (unlikely)

In the new canon Palpatine is basically Vader's father via the force.

Rey could be Anakin 2.0,in Dark Empire Palpatine tried to possess Leia's unborn baby and Sith spirits exist in the new canon and are very similar.

 

[Mage of Spellford]

Interesting...wasn't there some kind of theory that Anakin was the product of some kind of dark force experiment by Darth Sidious? Maybe in this movie they will find within the ruins of the deathstar that Rey was Anakin Mark II. Wouldn't it be cool if instead of the expected battle between Rey and Kylo we actually ended up with a battle of Rey vs Dark Rey.

That would explain a lot, in my head-cannon Rey was 'rescued' from the Deathstar ruins and left on Jakku to hide her existence--maybe by Luke or Lei?--just like Luke was left on Tatooine.

In episode IX the truth about Rey will be discovered or some clues will lead her to the ruins where she will learn the truth and have to confront her origin and decide her path forward. 'Skywalker' could be a pseudonym for this family of supernaturally created force users.

Now that would be cool!
Not sure why but this trailer has me interested aga

Mark

 

[Zardnaar]

Interesting...wasn't there some kind of theory that Anakin was the product of some kind of dark force experiment by Darth Sidious? Maybe in this movie they will find within the ruins of the deathstar that Rey was Anakin Mark II. Wouldn't it be cool if instead of the expected battle between Rey and Kylo we actually ended up with a battle of Rey vs Dark Rey.

That would explain a lot, in my head-cannon Rey was 'rescued' from the Deathstar ruins and left on Jakku to hide her existence--maybe by Luke or Lei?--just like Luke was left on Tatooine.

In episode IX the truth about Rey will be discovered or some clues will lead her to the ruins where she will learn the truth and have to confront her origin and decide her path forward. 'Skywalker' could be a pseudonym for this family of supernaturally created force users.

Now that would be cool!
Not sure why but this trailer has me interested aga

Mark

In the new cannon it has shown Palpatine more or less creating Anakin via the force, his mother is essentially a vessel.

AFAIK this is the art from the comic.

Star Wars comic finally reveals Anakin’s father

The mystery of who Anakin's father is has finally been revealed. Star Wars comic, Darth Vader No. 25 has decided to show us how Anakin came to be.

dorksideoftheforce.com

In one of the new Vader comics it's been revealed the new Sith ghosts can possess objects/people which is more or less the same as the old Sith ghosts from Legends material.

How it relates to the movies no idea but George lifted a few things from the old EU material and stuck it in the prequals.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

The reason I don't think Darth Rey is a vision or dream is that light saber. It seems like they woudn't create such a (n admittedly cool) thing just for a dream sequence.

What I think is more likely the case is one of two scenarios, maybe both:

1) Rey goes to the Dark side. She'll almost certainly be redeemed, but at some point she goes Dark.

That's the obviously one. My preferred is:

2) Rey becomes a "holistic" force user, not limited to either Light or Dark. They've implied this a bit, and it fits the narrative of the "end of the Jedi." I mean, this would certainly fit the quasi-Taoist leanings of Force philosophy, which sees Light and Dark as two sides of one whole.

The problem with that view, however, is that her light saber is red and she looks like a Darkside force user. But maybe part of this approach is that you can take on attributes of Light and Dark, as necessary.

The other problem is that the force isn’t Taoist philosophy. The Dark Side isn’t death and entropy, it is basically the space equivalent of necromancy or demon summoning in dnd. It’s an inherently evil corruption, a cancer, of the Force.

If they change that...well, I’ll always have the OT and my home games. But SW going forward would just be yet another grim shades of grey world. Meh. They’re a dime a dozen.

 

[Mercurius]

^I know it isn't Taoist philosophy, but it has shades of it - thus "quasi-Taoist leanings."

But it also isn't the strongly dualistic Abrahamic Good vs. Evil that you imply.

 

[Zardnaar]

Well they spoiled the "surprise" on their website and took it down in a hurry.

But if it's true it basically confirmed a leak a while ago so the overall plot is out there. If true it's not season 8 GoT disaster territory and it's slightly better than the obvious conclusion. The leak is one of many but it came out before this trailer screened in private.

Like the GoT one it's not big on finer details more answers to the two trailers and how it ends. If accurate.

Not gonna post it here and it could be complete bollocks. But with the website thing and what was known before the second trailer landed it's a bit more substantial than most. Not 100% convinced.

 

[trappedslider]

Well they spoiled the "surprise" on their website and took it down in a hurry.

But if it's true it basically confirmed a leak a while ago so the overall plot is out there. If true it's not season 8 GoT disaster territory and it's slightly better than the obvious conclusion. The leak is one of many but it came out before this trailer screened in private.

Like the GoT one it's not big on finer details more answers to the two trailers and how it ends. If accurate.

Not gonna post it here and it could be complete bollocks. But with the website thing and what was known before the second trailer landed it's a bit more substantial than most. Not 100% convinced.

if you're not going to put the spoiler even in spoiler blocks then why even post?

 

[Zardnaar]

if you're not going to put the spoiler even in spoiler blocks then why even post?

New forums not sure where spoiler tags are and other people might give up the ghost.

 

[Legatus Legionis]

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[Zardnaar]

The Star Wars / Lucasfilm website had "accidentally" spoiled "Dark Rey Vision". Youtube is talking about it.

Here is one of them:

Lucasfilm Accidentally Spoils "Dark Rey on the Official Star Wars Website

Here is another one:

Lucasfilm's Dark Rey Spoiler Blamed on Fans

I mentioned that yesterday but wasn't going to post the links.

But the d23 trailer was spoiled a few weeks ago before it screened in private. It was rumours back then but thrown in with this it seems to give validation to one of the leaks.