D&D 4E Tropes of the Nentir Vale

[Charlaquin]

Well, it......and 5e's all about the back harkening.

Alright, I’ll buy that.

 

[Beleriphon]

t does seem BECMI. Mearls said that Asmodeus was a former mortal, Todd expressed surprise, and Mearls said that basically all of the powers that be are former mortals in the current background set-up for D&D.

Asmodeus kind of makes sense, in the view that he's probably a fallen celestial of some kind to start with. So Asmodeus way back when was mortal, dies goes to some good aligned plane upon death, rises through the ranks of celestials for untold millennia and eventually falls.

Also, apotheosis isn't a bad idea. Nobody said that Moradin had to be a mortal dwarf, only that he created dwarves. If he was originally a mortal being, then he wasn't a dwarf. Or if he was a dwarf, then he was the dwarf that effectively forged dwaven culture and relationships as we know them in D&D's context. Either way is very interesting from a metaphysical standpoint.

 

[Aldarc]

Why not? There is support for it in the game's rules and history.

Seems more like he's trying to make his fan fiction canon.

 

[MonkeezOnFire]

...Why, though?

Mearls is a Defier confirmed. Now we just have to figure out the factions of the rest of the staff...

 

[Urriak Uruk]

Have to say Nentir Vale is one of my least favorite settings (possibly the worst IMO). There's not a lot in it I find truly original (beyond it's modules, which can be used in any generic setting too). The big draws to it is that it's a sandbox, which if I want a sandbox I'll make my own. And the survival element, but I find other settings (or pockets of settings) do it better like Dark Sun or Chult.

 

[Tony Vargas]

Have to say Nentir Vale is one of my least favorite settings (possibly the worst IMO). There's not a lot in it I find truly original (beyond it's modules, which can be used in any generic setting too). The big draws to it is that it's a sandbox, which if I want a sandbox I'll make my own. And the survival element, but I find other settings (or pockets of settings) do it better like Dark Sun or Chult.

IDK why it keeps getting brought up as such: it's a small, generic locale that could be dropped into any setting, the default setting it's in, being a nameless generic setting, itself. It gets called "Nerath" or "Nentir Vale" or "PoLland" or "The Dawn War setting," and someone off-handedly tossed out an official proper noun at some point, but it's just not a developed, detailed setting, /at all/.

That was the point: no default setting.

Yet, ironically, there are those how love it, or hate it, as a setting. ::

 

[Garthanos]

Yet, ironically, there are those how love it, or hate it, as a setting. ::

There is a skeletal setting .... beyond that generic locale. .We can feel its bones in feats and paragon paths and backgrounds and god descriptions and the like in 4e.

 

[Tony Vargas]

There is a skeletal setting .... beyond that generic locale. .We can feel its bones in feats and paragon paths and backgrounds and god descriptions and the like in 4e.

Nod. It really reminds me of the glimpses we had of the settings - Greyhawk & Blackmoor, mostly - in early D&D. The difference being that, this time around, there was nothing there beyond the glimpses.

 

[Garthanos]

Nod. It really reminds me of the glimpses we had of the settings - Greyhawk & Blackmoor, mostly - in early D&D. The difference being that, this time around, there was nothing there beyond the glimpses.

Course I never saw more than that glimpse back when either. ... whether Blackmoor had more or not

 

[Parmandur]

Seems more like he's trying to make his fan fiction canon.

I think he's succeeded in making his fan fiction Canon: beyond that, he has suceeded in making "Make My Fan-Fiction Canon" basically his job description.

What I'm saying is that Mike Mearls is clearly Asmodeus, if you read between the lines on that video.