Rise of Skywalker: The Seen It/Spoilers Thread

[Olgar Shiverstone]

GAAAAHHHH!!! TIE FIGHTERS. DO. NOT. HAVE. HYPERDRIVES!!!!!!

pant pant pant

With that aside, it was OK. Definitely fun Star Wars, if you don't think about it too closely.

Frankly, it could have used bit of a haircut. It just rushed through a lot of unnecessary stuff; the film should be allowed to unwind and expand and breathe, and then build rapidly to a crescendo. I prefer the pacing of the OT movies.

So much of the film is just repeats of OT moments slightly repackaged. It's like they have a checklist. Speeder bike chase, check. Throne room scene, check. Massive space battle, check. Cantina scene, check. ... That's Ok for fun, but a bit too much fan service. I finally choked out loud on the "give Chewie a medal" bit at the end since it was such extreme fan service. So that's disappointing. It doesn't have to be completely original -- TFA wasn't -- but make the copying and fan service less blatant.

I'm mixed on Palps as the villain. I think it would have worked better had they telegraphed better, but as it looks like they spent a good part of each movie undoing what they did in each prior movie, robbing the trilogy of some narrative coherence, that's hard to pull off. Too, clone emporers have been done (Dark Empire, etc). But at least the throwback to RotS line gives some context.

I don't understand how this fits with Rule of Two. And I do wish Finn's Checkov's secret had gone off.

But it did have the fun and the feels. Not as good by a long shot as the OT, better largely than the PT. I really need a rewatch to fully evaluate.

3/5 for me.

 

[Morrus]

GAAAAHHHH!!! TIE FIGHTERS. DO. NOT. HAVE. HYPERDRIVES!!!!!!

Clearly, they do. It's been 30 years!

 

[Morrus]

One thing I didn’t enjoy so much - Star Destroyers as the mooks or cannon-fodder. A single Star Destroyer should be like a dragon.

 

[tglassy]

I don't understand how this fits with Rule of Two. And I do wish Finn's Checkov's secret had gone off.

It’s so the Sith can each live forever in the body of their apprentice. The Master’s Spirit bonds with the Apprentice’s when the Apprentice kills him in anger, as all Apprentices are destined to do. It’s why the Masters always take an apprentice, even though they know their Apprentice will eventually kill them.

It’s actually brilliant. There are never more than two so all the power can be focused into one person, rather than spread out. It’s also why Palpatine never seemed afraid of dying, and why he told Luke to “Give in to his anger”, and that if he strikes Palpatine down in anger, his journey to the Dark Side would be complete. He was looking for a new body, and didn’t want Vader’s mechanical one.

 

[Morrus]

It’s so the Sith can each live forever in the body of their apprentice. The Master’s Spirit bonds with the Apprentice’s when the Apprentice kills him in anger, as all Apprentices are destined to do. It’s why the Masters always take an apprentice, even though they know their Apprentice will eventually kill them.

It’s actually brilliant. There are never more than two so all the power can be focused into one person, rather than spread out. It’s also why Palpatine never seemed afraid of dying, and why he told Luke to “Give in to his anger”, and that if he strikes Palpatine down in anger, his journey to the Dark Side would be complete. He was looking for a new body, and didn’t want Vader’s mechanical one.

Except it was Vader who killed him.

 

[tglassy]

Except it was Vader who killed him.

Apparently not. And he didn’t do it out of anger.

 

[billd91]

One thing I didn’t enjoy so much - Star Destroyers as the mooks or cannon-fodder. A single Star Destroyer should be like a dragon.

Well, that's what you get with a level-based system. Eventually, the tougher opponents become mooks.

 

[Morrus]

Apparently not.

Not now, no.

I do very much like that theory though.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Clearly, they do. It's been 30 years!

Not the OT TIE/ln that Kylo flew from the Death Star wreckage to Exowhatsis!

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

It’s so the Sith can each live forever in the body of their apprentice. The Master’s Spirit bonds with the Apprentice’s when the Apprentice kills him in anger, as all Apprentices are destined to do. It’s why the Masters always take an apprentice, even though they know their Apprentice will eventually kill them.

It’s actually brilliant. There are never more than two so all the power can be focused into one person, rather than spread out. It’s also why Palpatine never seemed afraid of dying, and why he told Luke to “Give in to his anger”, and that if he strikes Palpatine down in anger, his journey to the Dark Side would be complete. He was looking for a new body, and didn’t want Vader’s mechanical one.

Thanks. I guess I follow. So all the chanting hooded folks Palps kept referring to a Sith were not Sith then?