Unearthed Arcana Unearthed Arcana Revisits Psionics

The latest Unearthed Arcana from WotC revisits some psionic rules! “Shine with the power of the mind in this installment of Unearthed Arcana! Today we revisit several psi-themed options that we released in the past few months. Studying your feedback on those options, we’ve crafted this new collection of subclasses, spells, and feats, found in the PDF below.“

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While the sorcerer subclass isn't an issue the way the wizard one was, it's really its own thing, not a wilder.

By default, your spells use components. Your ability to not use components is limited by that psionic die. The rest of the time, you are casting spells with magic words, mystical gestures, and animal droppings just like everyone else.

How does that sound like a wilder? I don't think we necessarily need a wilder in 5e, but if we did, this wouldn't be it.

The other question I have is where would that subclass fit into Dark Sun? They say the majority of sorcerers on Athas have that subclass. But they don't tell us what they are doing with sorcerers (the 5e class) on Athas to begin with. Traditionally, you've got your mages who defile or preserve, and "sorcerer-kings" are powerful defiling mages. I'm not sure how that even intersects with the 5e concept of a sorcerer and this subclass.

Maybe it's just their way of saying "hey, a subclass that gives you some psionic ability is a good way to represent that every elite character traditionally has some psionic ability in Dark Sun--so here's one of those subclasses for sorcerer", but it is rather unclear.

At least this one doesn't preclude an actual psion class, and nothing it has really steals from what an actual psion class would need, so there is room for one. I think that's the concession they are giving to those of us who want one, but I don't know whether or not we will get one.

If we do get an actual psion class, then I'd be okay with these also, but they really want me to provide my feedback on this without knowing if there will be an actual psion class. Sigh

I was going to say I wonder what their motivation is one being so bound and determined to give us some psionic stuff even without a psion class. Do they feel they need to see how stuff that isn't a full class can fit with the game first before they try the class again? Do they have a product they are trying to get done that just really needs some sort of psychic warrior? But then I realized it might just be a matter of where the creative juices are flowing at the moment and not a matter of any commitment to anything in particular. But then I see that it's got Jeremy Crawford's name on it, which almost always means it's something they're are seriously working on--usually for release soon--and there are four other people on it.

So this is something they seriously are planning on putting out, and it absolutely is not (at this point) coming with a full psion class. What are they doing that they need psionics so much for right now that they can't wait for a full psion class? I really hope it isn't Dark Sun (because a Dark Sun book without a psion would be bad), but unfortunately that's probably what it is.
 

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Given that Psionic Soul Sorcerer still has at least a vestigal connection to Aberrants, the Summon Aberrants spell seems fitting for this subclass. Heck so does the fluff,
which says you draw the spirit from the far realms or any other realm of madness,
say your own nightmares for example. Of course with the Fey cause example that Summon Fey spell also fits.
 

But no more ego whip? I don't even care what the spell did, but how could you give up a spell with a name like that? Darn you, darn you to heck 5e!!!!!

I assume (and hope) they took them out because they don't belong on the class lists of arcane and divine casters--they belong as spells/powers/whatever of the full psion that this new UA leaves more room for.
 

They put in the Dunamancy material in Wildemount because it is important to the world: I could see them not necessarily testing Defiling, or leaving it really late in their rotation. Races they left to the last possible moment with Ravnica, too...

True, and the piety and supernatural gifts mechanic in Mythic Odysseys of Theros for example wasn't publicly playtested either. I guess we will see.
 

So basically, if ya rework it that your Psionic reflavored spells were STRICTLY powered by your Psi-Die decreasing by being spent and it would negate the component cost. It could be crazy/good/interesting/ or bad depending on your rolls.

Then again, it seems like each of the three Class Archetypes have THEIR own Talents to spend it on. Meaning if the Psionics were released, each class would have Talents unique to classes only while spells would follow the reflavoring of spells.

Basically Talents would be the thing setting the Psionics apart from the casters and stuff.
 
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Nope. Needs to be its own class. And none of these subclasses attempted to get the feel of a classic psionicist (psion) from 2nd edition or 3.5.
Just nope.

Not necessarily. They explained the history, both pre-5E and in 5E and the plautesting that got us here in the document.
 

Not necessarily. They explained the history, both pre-5E and in 5E and the plautesting that got us here in the document.
Well maybe they had their reasons. But I don't like these options. And I won't use them. Completely misses the feel of psionics to me, and they've been a part of my game since the early 90s.
I don't see any of these options fitting in with a setting like Dark Sun, if that's what they're going for.
 

Well maybe they had their reasons. But I don't like these options. And I won't use them. Completely misses the feel of psionics to me, and they've been a part of my game since the early 90s.
I don't see any of these options fitting in with a setting like Dark Sun, if that's what they're going for.
The problem is that 5E's biggest gimmick is the reflavoring of things and how the ruleset is set towards less complexity, given its moddable nature. Even in Rising From The Last War, the Psionics in monster stat-blocks were basically spells reflavored.

The Mystic was probably the CLOSET thing to a fully thought out and functional Psionic system.
 

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