D&D and the rising pandemic

[Zardnaar]

Herd immunity is a bad idea.

If you don't mind paying the blood price Sweden's approach might work long term.

Pandemics usually abate when they run out of victims.

If you front load the death toll you have an advantage to recover coming out the other end.

If there's no vaccine every other country has that decision to make.

It's not the approach I would pick but it's one way of dealing with it.

If Covids the new normal the other way of beating it is same way our ancestors did.

So yeah they might not hit immunity numbers but the numbers will go down due to running out of vulnerable people.

It's the second most efficient way of dealing with it assuming you don't mind the death toll.

The other approach is spread it out if containment fails. Still going to have people die but you'll still be dealing with it in October.

At this point containments really only viable in a few countries.

Unknown stuff.

Vaccine
Wave 2 and 3.

Some countries can't lockdown at least efficiently. India, Brazil.

Won't know until 2021 or beyond.

 

[Zardnaar]

Derp. Could be worse.

 

[Zardnaar]

Same as yesterday.
5 new cases one death.

77% recovery rate, 343 active cases.

Covid-19 update 25 April: Five new cases, one death

Today there are five new cases of Covid-19 and a woman in her 70s has died.

www.rnz.co.nz

18 deaths total. Doesn't appear to be any community spread.

Contact tracing seems to work just have to jump on it early.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Herd immunity via inoculation is a good idea.

Herd immunity via exposure is a good idea if you don’t have other options.

 

[abirdcall]

Herd immunity via inoculation is a good idea.

Herd immunity via exposure is a good idea if you don’t have other options.

It's not really an idea then is it?

It's just what is.

 

[Zardnaar]

It's not really an idea then is it?

It's just what is.

It's a choice, probably not the best choice as your first option.

We've almost eliminated it and Covid barely touched us. Plan is to wait for vaccine.

But if there's no vaccine and the rest of the world is exposed we're gonna look stupid.

We'll have to go through this all over again in a year or two after everyone else has already been through it.

If there is a vaccine yay we did great.

There is also doubt that we can wipe it out. Messaging has changed slightly. Elimination doesn't mean 0 cases.

Might get 0 cases then have a flair up in a month or two.

 

[abirdcall]

It's a choice, probably not the best choice as your first option.

'if you have no other options'

If there are no options then there is no choice.

 

[Zardnaar]

'if you have no other options'

If there are no options then there is no choice.

Well you have bad choices. You can half ass it and hope for the best.

 

[abirdcall]

Well you have bad choices. You can half ass it and hope for the best.

Do you know what you are responding to and why?

 

[Zardnaar]

Do you know what you are responding to and why?

Yes. Wasn't very clear soz.

Sometimes the choice is clear what you have to do but humans are very good at coming up with reasons not to do it.

Ideology, blind optimism, faint hope, incompetence etc.

Always got a choice. Don't always have good options.