D&D 5E 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

[Hohige]

Since the spell is not imperceptible (by the Xanathar's rules), it could be ruled that casting that spell invalidates hiding in the same way that casting a somatic-component spell would. Depending on what you do with the material component, it might even have audible cues.

I strongly disagree.
Just an attack or noise (verbal component) will reveal you . The strategy is perfect.

"audible cues."
That new to me
Stealth check is after all, how silent you are

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Yes, If The class feature says "magically" , its a magical effect.
Otherwise, It isnt.

Quoted for the rest of the thread.

According to this ruling, class features allowing one to escape sentinel are, among others:

1. The conjurer Benign Transposition
2. The mobile feat
3. The diviner Portent, which is apparently totally natural and not at all magic (provided you naturally have a good AC)
4. The enchanter instinctive charm to divert the AOO that would reduce move speed to 0.
5. The illusionnist Illusory Self (to make the attack hit an illusory copy of yourself that is 100% totally not magical.
6. The graviturgist gravity well (to totally nonmagically alter the gravity to push back the Sentinel out of range)
7. The bladesing would most probably kill the sorcerer before he's killed by the sorcerer....

Actually a majority of wizard subclasses have "not magical by the strange interpretation that connecting to another plane and summoning spirits from there is a totally, non magical class ability like rage because the word "magically" isn't written in the description." abilities.

Plus, we'd like to have the stats and build of the Assassin, since it's the real enemy of the wizard (as the sorcerer won't be dangerous encased in his AMF). If you fail to do that, we'll have to settle with the Assassin NPC stats defined by the rules of D&D.

 

[nogray]

I strongly disagree.
Just an attack or noise (verbal component) will reveal you . The strategy is perfect.

"audible cues."
That new to me
Stealth check is after all, how silent you are

It's far from 'perfect.' Your strategy is foiled by (at least) either an illusion or a conjuration wizard. The Illusionist can use Illusory Self (doesn't mention being a magical ability) to force the opportunity attack to miss. The Conjurer can Benign Transposition out (same thing). Now, you are inside an anti-magic shell and the Wizard isn't. Once out of the AMF, they could Misty Step to open the range further. (Apparently, Galandris is way faster than me on this one.)

"Audible Cues" just means that the manipulation of the component required by the spell is something that causes some level of noise. It's not something that is spelled out, so it would normally be DM call. Since you don't allow such things in this thread, all we know is that spells with material components are not imperceptible, meaning that they can be perceived. Sounds like something that might spoil hiding, being so perceptible.

 

[Hohige]

Quoted for the rest of the thread.

According to this ruling, class features allowing one to escape sentinel are, among others:

1. The conjurer Benign Transposition
2. The mobile feat
3. The diviner Portent, which is apparently totally natural and not at all magic (provided you naturally have a good AC)
4. The enchanter instinctive charm to divert the AOO that would reduce move speed to 0.
5. The illusionnist Illusory Self (to make the attack hit an illusory copy of yourself that is 100% totally not magical.
6. The graviturgist gravity well (to totally nonmagically alter the gravity to push back the Sentinel out of range)
7. The bladesing would most probably kill the sorcerer before he's killed by the sorcerer....

Actually a majority of wizard subclasses have "not magical by the strange interpretation that connecting to another plane and summoning spirits from there is a totally, non magical class ability like rage because the word "magically" isn't written in the description." abilities.

Plus, we'd like to have the stats and build of the Assassin, since it's the real enemy of the wizard (as the sorcerer won't be dangerous encased in his AMF). If you fail to do that, we'll have to settle with the Assassin NPC stats defined by the rules of D&D.

The Bladesinging is a magical effect, Sorry.

I don't care about the Wizard's abilities. It's weak.
Oh, you Illusory Self? Incredible.
Ilusionists is now a chicken with Simulacrum's Subtle Polymorph
Conjuration is a action. Useless.
A new chicken again.
ahah

Gravity well.

Starting at 6th level, At 6th level, you've learned how to manipulate gravity around a living being: whenever you cast a spell on a creature, you can move the target 5 feet to an unoccupied space of your choice if the target is willing to move, the spell hits it with an attack, or it fails a saving throw against the spell.
Sorry.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

The Bladesinging is a magical effect, Sorry.

Only Bladesong whose effect would be suppressed. The extra attack and bonus to damage are nonmagical effect according to your rules.
In a one on one figh it will be enough (as the simulacra, outside the antimagic field, will likely cancel each others).

 

[Hohige]

Only Bladesong whose effect would be suppressed. The extra attack and bonus to damage are nonmagical effect according to your rules.
In a one on one figh it will be enough (as the simulacra, outside the antimagic field, will likely cancel each others).

Useless against Sorcerer always hits and have more HP and can heal a lot per turn, 100 per turn. You die easily. You also doesn't have extra damage. Because you can't bladesinging.
I strongly disagree.
And the Simulacrum assassins hits you hard, longbow attacks aren't magical, sorry.. Easily dead.
Sorrry, your simulacrums are subtle dispelled. Easily.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Useless against Sorcerer always hits and have more HP and can heal a lot per turn. You die easily.

You'd be surprised. It will certainly not work like you think it will. Provide builds and we will discuss [

[oh, and in the numerous ways to escape this situation, the contingent dimension door still works since it will trigger before the wizard is engulfed into the AMF.]

I strongly disagree.
And the Simulacrum assassins hits you hard.

We don't know. It is totally possible he'll be dispelled before having a chance to act. I agree the assassin is the main threat here, the sorcerer has nearly no impact on the scene, but we'll see how to deal with that if and when we get a stat bock.

 

[Hohige]

You'd be surprised. It will certainly not work like you think it will. Provide builds and we will discuss [

[oh, and in the numerous ways to escape this situation, the contingent dimension door still works since it will trigger before the wizard is engulfed into the AMF.]



We don't know. It is totally possible he'll be dispelled before having a chance to act. I agree the assassin is the main threat here, the sorcerer has nearly no impact on the scene, but we'll see how to deal with that if and when we get a stat bock.

[oh, and in the numerous ways to escape this situation, the contingent dimension door still works since it will trigger before the wizard is engulfed into the AMF.]

I strongly disagree, The Bastion can heal his HP easily, multiple times. (Really), his attacks always hit. You can't win this battle.

I'm sorry. Your contingency is subtle dispelled;

"We don't know. It is totally possible he'll be dispelled before having a chance to act. I agree the assassin is the main threat here, the sorcerer has nearly no impact on the scene, but we'll see how to deal with that if and when we get a stat bock."

The Sorcerer simulacrum dispel your simulacrum and your spells and can deal a lot of things, damage and Including Subtle Polymorph.
The Assassin Simulacrum can instakill you.
The Bastion cant do a lot of damage. But It cant be defeated and kill The Wizard slowsly, without chance to scape.

You are totally wrong.

 

[Hohige]

The enchanter instinctive charm to divert the AOO that would reduce move speed to 0.
The bastion automatically wins your DC.

 

[Hohige]

It is very clear, the Wizard cannot win this battle.