D&D 5E 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

[Hohige]

The diviner Portent, which is apparently totally natural and not at all magic (provided you naturally have a good AC)

Useless against Trance of Order.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

[oh, and in the numerous ways to escape this situation, the contingent dimension door still works since it will trigger before the wizard is engulfed into the AMF.]

I strongly disagree, The Bastion can heal his HP easily, multiple times. (Really), his attacks always hit. You can't win this battle.

I'm sorry. Your contingency is subtle dispelled;

You didn't mention subtly dispelling contingency before the fight, giving a visual clue of the attack. Should I remind you of the strategy your proposed? It was in post #1,839, one hour ago. You seem to have forgotten.

1) Bastion is hidden and cast subtle invisibility. (Nondetection blocks See Invisible and True Seeming Spell).
2)He remains totally undetectable.
3) He uses Trance of Order.
4) When approaching a melee hit range, he cast Subtle Wish for Antimagic Field.
5) Now, your minimum attack is +19 to hit (Clockwork's Trance of Order), which automatically hits any Wizard. With sentinel feat (I traded + 2dex for sentinel feat).
It has at least +18 to concentration checks to avoid lose his concentration.
6) Antimagic Field is invisible, He Wizard doesn't know that It's an antimagic field around him. Until he tries to cast a spell and It fails.

7) Your Simulacrum's assassin makes a deadly attack each turn. It's a lot of damage.

8) While the Wizard is within the antimagic field, he cannot escape, since sentinel feat, It will prevent you from trying to escape and Bastion's constant attacks will surely be a painful death.

See, no dispelling!

 

[Hohige]

You didn't mention subtly dispelling contingency before the fight, giving a visual clue of the attack. Should I remind you of the strategy your proposed? It was in post #1,839, one hour ago. You seem to have forgotten.



See, no dispelling!

I always explained, countless times that The Bastion always dispells Contingency and Simulacrums.
Subtle Dispelling your Contingency imperceptible.

You are alone and cant scape.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

The diviner Portent, which is apparently totally natural and not at all magic (provided you naturally have a good AC)

Useless against Trance of Order.

We'll see when we see a build. Until then, we can only use your last posted build and the assassin NPC.

 

[Hohige]

It isnt a battle, Its a massacre.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

I always explained, countless times that The Bastion always dispells Contingency and Simulacrums.

Yes, but that was at the time you tried to defeat wizard with a build that had no Actor feat and the metamagic initiate feat. You was very clear that you had abandonned this build for another, legal, improved one, that we're still waiting for. I concluded that your new strategy was from this build. So we are back to you trying to dispel a contingency and a simulacrum, giving ample time to react before the threat of the AMF is even a thing. You really need to be clearer.

Subtle Dispelling your Contingency imperceptible.

Contingency creates a rotating blue esoteric symbol around an old-fashioned clock in front of the wizard. As per Tasha, spells can be modified in their appearance. You're free not to add flavour to your spells, but that won't prevent other from doing so.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

It isnt a battle, Its a massacre.

Yes, so many Sorcerer builds destroyed so far, most of them by their own doing... I really hope for you that one Sorcerer build will win a fight once with a regular build so the result won't be so one-sided against sorcerers.

 

[Hohige]

Yes, so many Sorcerer builds destroyed so far, most of them by their own doing... I really hope for you that one Sorcerer build will win a fight once with a regular build so the result won't be so one-sided against sorcerers.

Actually The Sorcerer beats all Wizards in different ways.
Can you choose.
Direct combat? It isn't fun. It's a massacre
Manipulation? It isn't fun. The Bastion manipule the world with Master of Deception and Planar Binding to pressure them Wizards.

You can choose the best way to die.

 

[nogray]

Just want to get a hang of the rules for the thread:

You can post illegal builds and change them from moment to moment.
You can change action declarations that happened long ago.
You can ignore RAW when you want to in favor of sage advice (Crawford's tweets and posts).
You can ignore sage advice when you want to in favor of RAW.
You can ignore both sage advice and RAW in favor of anything you think is "clear as water."
You can declare "no coffee-locking" and then coffee-lock yourself.
You can declare "no Simulacrum cheese" then get cheesy with a specific PC assassin build and a Simulacrum thereof.

That about sums it up, I think. No wonder no one can win. It's Calvinball-style D&D.

(Edit to add: I apologize. That got a little hostile sounding. I will remove the above, if desired.)

How does Coffee Boi know there is a contingency to dispel? How does he guarantee that he dispels something? (His check is d20+3 vs 10 + spell level, at least a required roll of 13, and could be up to 16, if the Wizard upcast the Contingency. Trance doesn't help you with that, and aid doesn't really apply. Only Magical Guidance helps.

While I like @Galandris's clock face, I'd have gone with something more subtle, but still noticeable to the Wizard, like a feeling of warmth or a slight tingling sensation. (Edited for clarity.)

 

[Hohige]

Contingency creates a rotating blue esoteric symbol around an old-fashioned clock in front of the wizard. As per Tasha, spells can be modified in their appearance. You're free not to add flavour to your spells, but that won't prevent other from doing so.

That was the greatest Metagame trick I have ever seen.
Haha ha But let me give you some news.
You cannot create effects visible to spells that have no visible effects. This does not change the mechanics of the game.

You can do fireball visual effect to darkball.
But you cannot create a visual effect on a spell without a visual effect like Mind Spike.