D&D 5E 5e and the Cheesecake Factory: Explaining Good Enough

[FrozenNorth]

Not talking about logical fallacy. This is a philosophical point, not a logical one. Opinion is inseparable from character. If someone cites someone of dubious character that dubiousness reflects on the citer.

Isn’t that the definition of “ad hominem”?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Isn’t that the definition of “ad hominem”?

I don't know, I don't speak Elvish.

 

[PsyzhranV2]

I don't know, I don't speak Elvish.

1. Google exists

2. If you're doing a bit, it's not funny. Stop.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

1. Google exists

Oh, you amaze me with your cleverness!

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2. If you're doing a bit, it's not funny. Stop.

I'm not being funny, I'm being sarcastic.

"Oh I'm so clever! I know words in dead languages! That makes my argument so much better!"

 

[Dausuul]

Oh, you amaze me with your cleverness!

I'm not being funny, I'm being sarcastic.

"Oh I'm so clever! I know words in dead languages! That makes my argument so much better!"

What's the Latin phrase for "insulting people instead of addressing their points?"

 

[Paul Farquhar]

What's the Latin phrase for "insulting people instead of addressing their points?"

I don't care about the points. I just despise jargon.

 

[PsyzhranV2]

Oh, you amaze me with your cleverness!

I'm not being funny, I'm being sarcastic.

"Oh I'm so clever! I know words in dead languages! That makes my argument so much better!"

Ad hominem is not even jargon, but accepted common parlance in English at this point. Loanwords exist, get used to it. Particularly since English is the magpie of languages, grabbing everything from other languages that looks shiny.

Or would you prefer that every foreign element be excised from the English language? In that case, hū sægest þū "idiot" in Ænglisc? Hafa gōdne dæg.

(Oh, and pretty much everybody in the thread dismissed your original point about citing less-than-perfectly-holy authors in your work as a black mark on your soul as complete garbage, maybe something for consideration)

 

[Campbell]

Ad hominem attacks are covered as part of middle school and high school level English units on how to present an argument. I think expecting most people to be familiar with material any 9th grader in the United States is expected to learn is a pretty low bar for conversation.

 

[Umbran]

I'm not being funny, I'm being sarcastic.

"Oh I'm so clever! I know words in dead languages! That makes my argument so much better!"

Mod Note:

And now, you're going to stop being sarcastic, and start being respectful to people.

This quibbling over when it is appropriate to use a Latin phrase is a deflection form the real issue - that you were treating folks pretty poorly. Start treating them better, now, please.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Ad hominem is not even jargon, but accepted common parlance in English at this point. Loanwords exist, get used to it. Particularly since English is the magpie of languages, grabbing everything from other languages that looks shiny.

I believe it means something like "the man". Which, taken literally, makes no sense in the context. Used to describe a type of argument, it's jargon.