So, Wandavision?

[Tonguez]

The show did demonstrate that it is possible to nullify the magic of even a witch as powerful as Wanda, so imprisoning her should be possible as long as you can find someone to rune it up. Getting her into that cell is a different matter though.

She could accept responsibility and do so willingly

 

[Tonguez]

Exactly this. If Hawyard could track Vision, he was real. Vision was independent of Wanda, having agency and his own personality. He depended on the Hex to live, just like we depend on the atmosphere to live.

Well now we’re getting in to the definition of Implied Reality in a Multiversal Field. We don’t know if Hayward was tracking the Vibranium from which Vision was made or if Wanda had spontanenously created the illusion of the tracking of Vibranium that was being tracked by Hayward - because Quantum!

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Well now we’re getting in to the definition of Implied Reality in a Multiversal Field. We don’t know if Hayward was tracking the Vibranium from which Vision was made or if Wanda had spontanenously created the illusion of the tracking of Vibranium that was being tracked by Hayward - because Quantum!

She seemed to not know where Vision was during the Halloween episode, so I'm sticking with my opinion here.

 

[Eric V]

You have seemed to have taken it upon yourself to prove Wanda's guilt, so I will ask you to present your case for her guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Yeah, okay.

I am actually not saying she needs to be found guilty in a court of law. I am saying she needs to be held accountable, and take responsibility. Those people who get off with the poorly-named insanity defense? They rarely get to just go back to whatever crazy sh!t they were doing before; they just don't go to jail. There are still stipulations of therapy, etc.

I mean, really: the episode ended and we're like "Hey, she had unprocessed grief so it's not her fault. Now let her fly off to continue to not address her grief and let's all just hope she doesn't enslave a town again."

My criticism is of the writing of the show that they are making this seem reasonable. Someone with that much power, who is that unstable has a responsibility to curtail it and her grief that causes it to go ker-plooey. You know how we know that? The Incredible Hulk. Huge power capable of disaster based on his emotions. Years of comics of Banner trying to get rid of it and trying to have as much emotional control as possible (a great little scene in the Norton movie). But no, they write Wanda as not accountable, and I think that writing is childish.

 

[Older Beholder]

You don't pass judgement on a God for natural disasters.
Wanda set up the hex as quarantine to stop her grief growing.

I thought that Monica telling Wanda she understood was the best thing she could have done at that point.
We end with Wanda trying to better understand her powers so she can control them.
I'm pretty sure the consequences/fallout will be addressed in future movies.

 

[BRayne]

Yeah, okay.

I am actually not saying she needs to be found guilty in a court of law. I am saying she needs to be held accountable, and take responsibility. Those people who get off with the poorly-named insanity defense? They rarely get to just go back to whatever crazy sh!t they were doing before; they just don't go to jail. There are still stipulations of therapy, etc.

I mean, really: the episode ended and we're like "Hey, she had unprocessed grief so it's not her fault. Now let her fly off to continue to not address her grief and let's all just hope she doesn't enslave a town again."

My criticism is of the writing of the show that they are making this seem reasonable. Someone with that much power, who is that unstable has a responsibility to curtail it and her grief that causes it to go ker-plooey. You know how we know that? The Incredible Hulk. Huge power capable of disaster based on his emotions. Years of comics of Banner trying to get rid of it and trying to have as much emotional control as possible (a great little scene in the Norton movie). But no, they write Wanda as not accountable, and I think that writing is childish.

"Character with immense power tied to their emotional state and escaping judgement from authorities flees to remote, mountainside cabin to better understand how to control their power" is in fact the end state of both Norton's Hulk and Wanda here

 

[FitzTheRuke]

For all we know Wanda may fully plan to "turn herself in" - once she understands her powers well enough to know that it would be safe to do so.

As it stands, again for all we know, if she goes to prison, she might just think one morning "gee, it would be nice to go outside today!" Only to find that she disintegrated a prison wall. Or made all the guards dance showtunes while opening the doors. Or if she goes to therapy, and the therapist asks "so how did it feel when you put your imaginary kids to bed for the last time?" she could make everyone in the neighbourhood feel just how it felt.

Getting someone to make runes every time might help, but those runes didn't bring down the Hex just because she was in Agnes' basement, did they? They seem to just stop her from doing conscious magic tricks, not negate whatever thing she has subconsciously going on.

No, she's too DANGEROUS to face punishment for her crimes. Now, anyway. She might come back when she's got a better understanding and control of her abilities and ask for the town's forgiveness. We'll have to see.

 

[Rune]

Well now we’re getting in to the definition of Implied Reality in a Multiversal Field. We don’t know if Hayward was tracking the Vibranium from which Vision was made or if Wanda had spontanenously created the illusion of the tracking of Vibranium that was being tracked by Hayward - because Quantum!

But how would she know that vibranium decays? You are imparting on Wanda a degree of scientific knowledge that we have no reason to believe she has.

But, of course, we also know (if Monica was correct) that Wanda can’t create matter from nothing. Conclussion: Wanda must have pulled the matter that became Vision and her kids from a different place.

Which means there must have been at least two moments (or one extended moment) in which the barrier(s) between worlds was/were breached.

Also, worth pointing out, the souls of her kids we heard in the post-credit scene were in torment. That’s not like any of the afterlives we’ve seen so far.

 

[Umbran]

Which means there must have been at least two moments (or one extended moment) in which the barrier(s) between worlds was/were breached.

Hardly. Do remember your D&D schools of magic! Agatha demonstrated transmutation. So, some normal, base material could be transmuted into vibranium for the purpose, like spinning straw into gold. Getting mere physical matter for a body, even an unusual one, does not require breaching the barriers between worlds.

Now, the animus for her kids, that (especially considering the original comics) probably required reaching out to elsewhere.

 

[Tonguez]

"Character with immense power tied to their emotional state and escaping judgement from authorities flees to remote, mountainside cabin to better understand how to control their power" is in fact the end state of both Norton's Hulk and Wanda here

Yeah but Banner has the advantage of being one of the genius science bros whose an expert in biochemistry, medicine (physician) and gamma physics and during Nortons era was shown to be actively practicing breath control techniques and playing with pipettes and purple test tubes to find a cure to his problem.
Wanda doesnt have that training and up to and including last Friday hadnt shown much control of her emotional outburst at all.

Unlike Banner she hasnt gone away from civilisation so she can find a cure, Wanda has gone so she can read the most dangerous book possible which has historically been all but guaranteed to cause chaos and hellish doom for anyone silly enough to open it