So, Wandavision?

[Tonguez]

It is silly to compare the damage or harm she did to what other superheroes have done elsewhere in the MCU because of one big difference. All the others knew what they were doing and how they were using their powers. It was their conscious choice to take the actions they did. Wanda uses Chaos Magic. It, and the Scarlet Witch force within her, control her more than she controls it. Chaos Magic warps and distorts what she wants or desires to do with her powers into results that do the job, but are not always the best outcome for everyone involved. She came back from the Snap, tracked down Vision's body, realized he was really gone, fell into despair, drove to Westview, to the building lot Vision had bought for them, had a total breakdown resulting in the feeling of emptiness, etc, and then was suddenly existing in the sitcom version of Westview, created by her subconscious/Chaos Magic. It is the closest thing to a temporary insanity defense the MCU would give her in a courtroom and she would be found not guilty because of it, just like cases are in the real world when that defense is found legitimate. That would not stop the civil lawsuits, though, that would demand financial compensation for the pain and suffering the people of the town went through.

1 Wanda's lack of control is comparable to Hulks lack of control with the caveat that Wanda still has to make a concious choice before her powers activate. Hulk is also actively hunted by the military as a rogue WMD

2 The Insanity Plea also doesn't mean no incarceration, it just means no Prison time, the Dangerous Insane are still put into secure hospitals for their treatment as long as they are deemed a threat - thats whats being asked for in Wanda's case, an assessment that she is no longer a threat.

 

[Tonguez]

A man who was mentored and trained by a woman.

Every man is mentored and trained by a woman, she is called Mother

 

[trappedslider]

Finally watched it and my brain went I know that reference when they showed the marquee of the theater "Tannhäuser Gate"

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Finally watched it and my brain went I know that reference when they showed the marquee of the theater "Tannhäuser Gate"

It's the sequel to "Off the Shoulder of Orion".

P.S. This would make a good question for Only Connect.

 

[Zardnaar]

Really enjoyed episode 7 but fell asleep through most of 8 so need to rewatch.

Nothing to do with the quality of the episode was just really shattered.

 

[Eric V]

No, she literally didn’t know. It’s...a major and explicit part of the plot.

She corrects people and events within to match her liking. She knows she's got a whole town under control when she confronts Hayward about the drone. A responsible person checks to see what exactly her fantasy is doing to the people involved.

If they care to do so.

 

[Umbran]

2 The Insanity Plea also doesn't mean no incarceration, it just means no Prison time, the Dangerous Insane are still put into secure hospitals for their treatment as long as they are deemed a threat - thats whats being asked for in Wanda's case, an assessment that she is no longer a threat.

And, as we've already noted, there's not a facility in the world that can hold her if she doesn't want to be held. Any incarceration would have to be entirely willing on her part. She has, at least for now, sequestered herself away from civilization. She is farther away from other people to hurt than she would be in any facility you could name. She is as effectively incarcerated as she can get.

What she still isn't getting is treatment. But, that can't help her until she's ready to be helped anyway. It is not clear that there's a mental health practitioner in the world with sufficient experience in cases like hers (because, really, in the MCU, there are only a handful of super-powered beings, much less of her power level) to certify her safety with any confidence.

Every man is mentored and trained by a woman, she is called Mother

Um... you know lots of people lose their moms, right?

 

[Maxperson]

Yeah but Banner has the advantage of being one of the genius science bros whose an expert in biochemistry, medicine (physician) and gamma physics and during Nortons era was shown to be actively practicing breath control techniques and playing with pipettes and purple test tubes to find a cure to his problem.
Wanda doesnt have that training and up to and including last Friday hadnt shown much control of her emotional outburst at all.

Go far enough back and the first wizards and witches didn't know what they were doing either. It's a rougher road, but you can learn from practice and trial and error.

Unlike Banner she hasnt gone away from civilisation so she can find a cure, Wanda has gone so she can read the most dangerous book possible which has historically been all but guaranteed to cause chaos and hellish doom for anyone silly enough to open it

You don't know that. All you know is that an addition to anything else she might or might not have gone away to that place for, she also is looking at the book. She may not be trying to gain a measure of control over her power while she is there, but then again she might.

 

[Umbran]

You don't know that. All you know is that an addition to anything else she might or might not have gone away to that place for, she also is looking at the book. She may not be trying to gain a measure of control over her power while she is there, but then again she might.

She did explicitly state that she was going to seek to learn how to control her powers. It stands to reason that the next thing she does is towards that end, especially when she's been told the book has a lot to say about the Scarlet Witch.

 

[ART!]

I really, really enjoyed this show for the most part. Everything with Wanda and Vision I thought was just great. Monica was nicely fleshed out and I think they cast her really well - I look forward to seeing more of her. It was great to see Jimmy and Darcy, and I really hope they get used much more somewhere.

I think the show's weakest scenes were expository ones. Most of those just felt really flat to me. For instance, as great as it was to get the tour of Wanda's traumas and as good as Olsen was in all that, Agnes narrating and "explaining" it was almost painful.

Anyway, I'm glad we got this series, and that Olsen and Bettany all got lots of room to dig into their characters. I'm really looking forward tot he new dynamics of the MCU, with movies for the big tent-pole stuff, and series for the more in-depth explorations.