Falcon and winter solider

[Dire Bare]

I didn’t say he had been in the MCU. In the comics, he was for several years.

I'm guessing by the end of "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier", Sam will be the next Captain America! Or at least, I hope so!

Both Sam and Bucky (and John Walker) have worn the mantle of Captain America in the comics, always handing it back to Steve at some point. That's one thing about the MCU that I'm hoping won't happen, that Steve Rogers is truly done with the role of Captain America.

 

[Umbran]

That's one thing about the MCU that I'm hoping won't happen, that Steve Rogers is truly done with the role of Captain America.

That will depend, I think, on how long the MCU lasts.

In the comics, you have nigh infinite time. In movies, an actor only gets a few shots at a role before they age out of it. Chris Evans is a normal human, and can't keep that up forever. I expect Evans' Cap is done.

However, if they are still rolling in a decade or more? If you can find someone as good as Evans, and recast? Steve Rogers may be back. I'd be okay with that.

 

[Morrus]

That will depend, I think, on how long the MCU lasts.

In the comics, you have nigh infinite time. In movies, an actor only gets a few shots at a role before they age out of it. Chris Evans is a normal human, and can't keep that up forever. I expect Evans' Cap is done.

However, if they are still rolling in a decade or more? If you can find someone as good as Evans, and recast? Steve Rogers may be back. I'd be okay with that.

Or de-aging effects become even better, and start to become completely normalized. New Tom Cruise action film in 2045?

 

[Dire Bare]

That will depend, I think, on how long the MCU lasts.

In the comics, you have nigh infinite time. In movies, an actor only gets a few shots at a role before they age out of it. Chris Evans is a normal human, and can't keep that up forever. I expect Evans' Cap is done.

However, if they are still rolling in a decade or more? If you can find someone as good as Evans, and recast? Steve Rogers may be back. I'd be okay with that.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Chris Evans has stated he's done with the role . . . although, through enough money his way, he might change his mind.

Eventually, the MCU connected universe will end and the Marvel stories will be rebooted. I just hope it's not anytime soon! Could they bring back Steve Rogers, with a different actor, within the current film/TV continuity?!?! I don't think they will, but you never know . . .

 

[Umbran]

Eventually, the MCU connected universe will end and the Marvel stories will be rebooted.

Thing is, given the genre, they don't need to end-and-reboot. There's no need to go back to origins. If they manage recasting, they can just keep on truckin'.

 

[Dire Bare]

Thing is, given the genre, they don't need to end-and-reboot. There's no need to go back to origins. If they manage recasting, they can just keep on truckin'.

They could do that . . . . I would be surprised if they did. We've got plenty of time before it becomes an issue, though!

 

[Umbran]

Or de-aging effects become even better, and start to become completely normalized. New Tom Cruise action film in 2045?

If you have a story compelling enough that he wants to come back, and you are willing to pay the premium rate he'd have every right to ask for? Fine.

But there's always a ton of actors looking for work. If you are willing to look, you're pretty much assured there's some young buck out there who will do it for half the price.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

However, if they are still rolling in a decade or more? If you can find someone as good as Evans, and recast? Steve Rogers may be back. I'd be okay with that.

I wouldn't, necessarily. And I think enough fans would be skeptical of it to make doing it a bigger risk than most studios like to take. The "no stakes are actually real" nature of Marvel comics isn't exactly without it's enormous amount of criticism, after all.

 

[Umbran]

I wouldn't, necessarily. And I think enough fans would be skeptical of it to make doing it a bigger risk than most studios like to take. The "no stakes are actually real" nature of Marvel comics isn't exactly without it's enormous amount of criticism, after all.

That old chestnut? Do we need to have the "permanent death is not the only way to have meaningful stakes" discussion again, but on movies instead of RPGs?

 

[doctorbadwolf]

That old chestnut? Do we need to have the "permanent death is not the only way to have meaningful stakes" discussion again, but on movies instead of RPGs?

You pretty much brought it up by suggesting there would be nothing wrong with bringing Steve back, but also, Steve isn't dead. He had his ending. Not an ending I agree with, but it is conclusive and satisfying to the character. Having him come back, as an old man still, in an advisory role or something, would be fine. We saw in Falcon and Bucky Show ep2 that an old super soldier is still dangerous, after all.

Recasting him so that we can have young Steve again, in the same continuity, would most likely be garbage cheap storytelling.