On number of ignores

[Maxperson]

I was merely trying to help you understand you need to educate yourself as to why this is set up in a way contrary to your wishes. Basically, that you're looking at this from your own personal point of view - but you're not what the system is set up to protect against. (I'm suggesting you consider your troubles be an acceptable price to pay to have Xenforo help shield against harassment, something true two-way ignore does better)

Cheers

If that's the purpose, then it's inherently a failed purpose. The design forces those who want to make coherent sense of threads to log out and read what they can't see. Rather than seeing a few quoted snippets, they are now seeing everything.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

If you have a better way of explaining to Max why his issue is not and should not be a priority, the thread is yours.

I think you were doing a fine job, but that starting sentence, taken by itself, comes across as accusatory and pompous. I'm pretty sure that you didn't mean it that way, which is why I laughed.

 

[Maxperson]

If you've gotten yourself blocked, that suggests that you've already demonstrated that, for whatever reason, you haven't managed to avoid doing harm to that person. So, maybe you aren't the best person to assess what further harm might be done.

Sorry if you find it annoying or inconvenient. But, As CapnZapp has pointed out, the feature is not about you, the person who has been blocked.

So "harm" to me and my experience is okay?

 

[pogre]

My ignore list has been empty for a long time. I am glad it is a feature though.

I have been tempted to use it a couple of times - particularly against individuals who ANNOUNCE they are putting someone else on ignore. That rubs me the wrong way - kind of like the GRAND EXIT.

I have a good sense of what most frequent posters are going to say - I can just scroll on by.

I have not met a lot of the posters who are frequent contributors currently. However, in earlier days I met a lot of ENWorlders at conventions and out and about - even the ones I disagreed with often turned out to be fun and neat people.

 

[Sacrosanct]

If you have a better way of explaining to Max why his issue is not and should not be a priority, the thread is yours.

When has the phrase "you need to educate yourself" in a disagreement ever worked well? I'm guessing as well as telling your angry partner to calm down

Can you think of perhaps another way of putting it?

 

[Morrus]

So "harm" to me and my experience is okay?

The blunt answer? Yes.

As for 'harm' to you, self-inflicted wounds don't garner much sympathy.

I'm likely on that list as well. For me, I'm indifferent. People get contentious with me and often can't handle it when I respond in kind, so they block me. I've seen it happen time and time again.

If the sheer volume of people who have blocked you is causing you difficulty... well, only you can control your own behaviour, and as you say, you're deliberately contentious, and indifferent to the consequences. So there it is.

Honestly, man, when somebody has amassed so many ignores or warnings that it affects their enjoyment of the site, their opinions on moderation or privacy tools is something I'm pretty indifferent too, too.

 

[Gradine]

Not being able to read their posts isn't "protecting" them. No harm is done by my seeing what they posted.

As someone who has to navigate an internet that is, by and large, very hostile to my existence (to the extent that other trans people I know have been doxxed and/or received death threats), let me be the first to inform you of exactly how much protection is afforded to me with the ability to limit who can see my own posts.


It's a lot, is what I'm saying

 

[Maxperson]

As someone who has to navigate an internet that is, by and large, very hostile to my existence (to the extent that other trans people I know have been doxxed and/or received death threats), let me be the first to inform you of exactly how much protection is afforded to me with the ability to limit who can see my own posts.


It's a lot, is what I'm saying

Sure, but this isn't doing that. No real protection is being offered. When I only saw the portions that were quoted, I understood the context of the posts that I could see and responded to those people who didn't have me blocked. What is currently happening is creating a situation where if I want to engage in conversation with people who don't have me blocked in a coherent fashion, I have to log out and read the thread so I can see the context of their post. That shows me all of the posts from the people blocking me, even the ones I didn't need to see in order to understand the context. And I'm not the only one I've seen say this.

 

[Gradine]

Sure, but this isn't doing that. No real protection is being offered. When I only saw the portions that were quoted, I understood the context of the posts that I could see and responded to those people who didn't have me blocked. What is currently happening is creating a situation where if I want to engage in conversation with people who don't have me blocked in a coherent fashion, I have to log out and read the thread so I can see the context of their post. That shows me all of the posts from the people blocking me, even the ones I didn't need to see in order to understand the context. And I'm not the only one I've seen say this.

Trust me when I say that any barrier, no matter how easily circumvented (and considering how annoying you're making it sound...) is one measure of protection greater than I would otherwise have. If I've ignored someone, I very much want them to have difficulty reading my posts.

What upsets me, on the other hand, is how easy it seems to get around an ignore. I don't know how possible it is to deal with the logging out issue (at least it seems to be a headache!) But I'd really like it if there were a way to block quotes from being read as well.

But the thing you're complaining about is very much a feature, not a bug. If someone has ignored you it is because they very specifically do not want you engaging with their conversations.


Maybe take a hint.

 

[CapnZapp]

Can you think of perhaps another way of putting it?

You're changing the subject (as so often before). (Hint: the subject matter of this thread isn't "how Zapp should phrase his posts".)