D&D and the rising pandemic

[Hussar]

Well, it will likely be September before I get my poke. Sigh. One of my students is a lung surgeon at the local hospital. The hospital where they accept Covid patients. The north of 60 year old doctor student just got his first shot THIS WEEK.

Very, very much not happy with Japan right now.

 

[cmad1977]

Well, it will likely be September before I get my poke. Sigh. One of my students is a lung surgeon at the local hospital. The hospital where they accept Covid patients. The north of 60 year old doctor student just got his first shot THIS WEEK.

Very, very much not happy with Japan right now.

Oof. Fly out to Los Angeles twice and you’ll be good to go.

 

[MarkB]

I got my second jab on Thursday morning. Pfizer, no appreciable side effects.

 

[Mistwell]

From New York Times. "Few vaccinated people become infected with the virus, and transmission seems rarer still; and the vaccines appear to be effective against all known variants of the coronavirus...Other recent studies confirm that people who are infected after vaccination carry too little virus to infect others, said Florian Krammer, a virologist at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai."

 

[Hussar]

And the Olympics are full speed ahead. It’s only going to get a lot worse here.

 

[Bedrockgames]

From New York Times. "Few vaccinated people become infected with the virus, and transmission seems rarer still; and the vaccines appear to be effective against all known variants of the coronavirus...Other recent studies confirm that people who are infected after vaccination carry too little virus to infect others, said Florian Krammer, a virologist at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai."

People will lie about whether they are vaccinated. The recommendation effectively means everyone can go places without a mask

 

[Mistwell]

People will lie about whether they are vaccinated. The recommendation effectively means everyone can go places without a mask

This still is not an argument for a person who is vaccinated to wear a mask because they might infect others. That's what Desert Gled is arguing because his pediatrician told him that. That information WAS the best we knew up until recently. However the new evidence coming out answers that question. No, you're not risk of transmission if you're vaccinated. Even if you get an asymptomatic dose of it yourself as a vaccinated person you won't then transmit it to others.

It also means that if your entire D&D group is vaccinated, or even if everyone except one person is vaccinated, then you can get together without masks.

 

[Umbran]

People will lie about whether they are vaccinated. The recommendation effectively means everyone can go places without a mask

Probably. And the CDC undoubtedly knows that. They will have crunched the numbers before giving the guidance. Crunching such numbers is, in fact, part of their job.

Conscientious people will continue to wear masks until they get vaccinated.

Unconscientious people... were already going unmasked in large numbers. Which probably makes the point moot.

 

[Mistwell]

From NPR
“"The vast majority of the data that's coming out — and what we're seeing anecdotally on the ground, taking care of patients — is that individuals who get COVID after they've been vaccinated, as long as they're not immunocompromised, they get really mild disease and they have such low viral loads that they're not passing it on to their family members," Landon says.”

 

[JEB]

Unconscientious people... were already going unmasked in large numbers. Which probably makes the point moot.

Before, the guidance was that folks should generally wear masks, vaccinated or not, unless you're around other vaccinated folks (or at your own risk). This also gave backing to local authorities, businesses, etc. to have masks required. So folks who didn't wear masks in public stood out.

Now, a lot more folks will be maskless in public, so it'll be basically impossible to tell the difference between "unmasked because vaccinated" and "unvaccinated and never wanted to mask in the first place". And businesses etc. will be under pressure to drop restrictions (though odds are many will keep them for staff).