D&D 5E The October D&D Book is Fizban’s Treasury of Dragons

As revealed by Nerd Immersion by deciphering computer code from D&D Beyond!

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Fizban the Fabulous is, of course, the accident-prone, befuddled alter-ego of Dragonlance’s god of good dragons, Paladine, the platinum dragon (Dragonlance’s version of Bahamut).

Which makes my guess earlier this year spot on!

UPDATE -- the book now has a description!

D&D 5E - Fizban's Treasury: The Dragon Book Now Has A Description... And A Feat

Courtesy of Amazon, we now have a description for Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, the October D&D hardcover. The book introduces gem dragons, dragon-themed player options, and plenty of draconic lore! This joins September's The Wild Beyond the Witchlight, and November's Strixhaven: Curriculum of...

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D&D 5E - My guess for the other D&D book this year... Draconomicon!

We know the fifth major product this year will be James Wyatt‘s as-yet unannounced project, and we know it will be coming out this year between Witchlight and Strixhaven. Wyatt co-wrote the Draconomicon for 3E. There have been two recent dragon-themed Unearthed Arcanas — dragon-themed...

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Fizban the Fabulous by Vera Gentinetta

 

[Parmandur]

Where is it's slavery detailed in the Eberron book?

Is it?
Reads like a cult against death and focused on undeath in the latest book. Seems like they changed that, and there's the good)ish) Seekers of the Divinity Within

What page mentions slaves?

That adventure also features entirely evil drow, which they wouldn't do now
Maybe, just maybe, WizCo might have changed what they do and do not find acceptable in the past six years
I doubt they'd do OUT OF THE ABYSS now, or would do it very differently

You keep trying to paint this as insurmountably problematic, but WotC approached similar issues in Ravenloft just the other month quite successfully. I am sure where Dark Sun canon conflicts with WotC needs as a game publisher, WotC business needs will win out, but that doesn't mean they can't or won't try.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Honestly, I'm wondering: how are they going to get a whole book out of just dragons? Playable dragon rules, a dragon-themed bestiary, and ... what else? It doesn't seem like you could fill up a whole book with just that. Random hoard tables, maybe?

Dragons are an entire creature type and they aren't just doing beastiary and lore, they are doing player options like races, subclasses, spells, feats, maybe backgrounds. And given Treasury is in the title, magic items.

Lore wise chapters on Gem, Chromatic, Metallic (and their extended families), Planar Dragons, and Lesser Dragons is likely along with a chapter on related humaniods and common servants like Dragonborn, Kobolds, perhaps others. There could be a chapter on Dragon based organizations like the Cult of the Dragon and others. And a chapter for Player options and Magic Items. Finally a large beastairy for Dragon creature type and creatures that serve Dragons or hunt Dragons as well.

 

[pukunui]

That adventure also features entirely evil drow, which they wouldn't do now
Maybe, just maybe, WizCo might have changed what they do and do not find acceptable in the past six years
I doubt they'd do OUT OF THE ABYSS now, or would do it very differently

Sure they would, because they haven't changed the drow in the Underdark. They're still evil Lolth-worshippers. All they've done is said that those drow are all based in and around Menzoberranzan. The new, non-evil drow cultures are both hidden away on the surface -- one in a forest somewhere and one up in the arctic circle iirc.

So Out of the Abyss is still a perfectly valid, viable adventure because all the evil drow featured in it come from Menzoberranzan or its satellite communities.

 

[Demetrios1453]

You keep trying to paint this as insurmountably problematic, but WotC approached similar issues in Ravenloft just the other month quite successfully. I am sure where Dark Sun canon conflicts with WotC needs as a game publisher, WotC business needs will win out, but that doesn't mean they can't or won't try.

It's a win-win situation for those who complain like this. Either the controversial subject is indeed removed at which point they get to say "I told you so!", or (as usually happens since said issues can usually be worked with if handled properly) the subject stays as is, at which point they will assume that their collective complaining are solely responsible for the subject being retained, and will loudly proclaim so..

 

[lkj]

Just an observation, but if you type in the word 'slave' or 'slavery' on DDB, you can find that references to slaves or slavery show up in:

Princes of the Apocalypse
Out of the Abyss
Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide
Storm King's Thunder
Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage (though I think the pens are abandoned)
Tales from the Yawning Portal
Lost Mine of Phandelver
Tomb of Annihilation
Players Handbook (referencing Duergar)
Eberron (both books)
Ghosts of Saltmarsh
Monster Manual
Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes
Explorer's Guide to Wildemount
Waterdeep: Dragon Heist
Volo's Guide to Monsters
Dungeon Master's Guide
Mythic Odysseys of Theros
Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus

I left out Tasha's-- it's mentioned but only in the context of an example of something that might be a 'limit' that should be determined as part of your social contract with your group. This, I suspect, will be what determines how they handle Dark Sun. They did Ravenloft-- and included warnings about potentially harmful triggers. Seems like they could do the same with Dark Sun.


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[CasvalRemDeikun]

Not really "Published," licensed by and owned by WotC, though.

Right, but the other setting materials during 3.5E were officially licensed, but published by Margaret Weis Productions.

I would be very unsurprised if WotC either set their RPG book in the time of the War of the Lance or soon thereafter. The number of Dragonlance readers invested in the setting be placed in the "present" is probably a lot smaller than the larger D&D audience that would want to play what they think of as "the real" Dragonlance. (Think a Star Wars RPG set in the original trilogy era versus a post-Rise of Skywalker RPG.)

I absolutely agree. They would be making a mistake by not going back to the War of the Lance.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Sure they would, because they haven't changed the drow in the Underdark. They're still evil Lolth-worshippers. All they've done is said that those drow are all based in and around Menzoberranzan. The new, non-evil drow cultures are both hidden away on the surface -- one in a forest somewhere and one up in the arctic circle iirc.

I gotta say, I'm still disappointed they didn't make it clear that there are other drow cultures in the Underdark. Nothing about the crazies in Menzoberranzan suggests they'd be able to successfully conquer anyone, let alone all other drow. (Contrast with the Empire of the Ghouls by Kobold Press, which makes one wonder why the rest of the world hasn't fallen yet.) Nothing would have to be retconned by saying that these drow are crazy Lolth fanatics, but all those drow have different cultures.

Honestly, if I were a big Forgotten Realms fan, I'd find an Underdark drow monoculture boring. And telling players "hey, you can play a good drow so long as they're nothing like the drow you wanted to play" doesn't seem like a solution to anything.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

I guess to get back-on-track to this book, I'm curious how much this book will reference specific settings at all.

Volo's Guide I don't believe references settings much, if at all. It does state lore on various monsters, but it is portrayed as lore that transcends all worlds, like mind flayers act a certain way everywhere, as do hags.

Mordenkainen's is a bit more specific as it gets into "multiverse" lore like the Blood War, and the war between Gith and Mind Flayers, but I think it too mostly avoids talking about specific material plane worlds.

So it will be interesting if this book tries to mention dragons in specific worlds, such as how important they are in Dragonlance, or whether it will stick to "generic, universal lore," on how these dragon types behave in your typical world.

 

[Parmandur]

I guess to get back-on-track to this book, I'm curious how much this book will reference specific settings at all.

Volo's Guide I don't believe references settings much, if at all. It does state lore on various monsters, but it is portrayed as lore that transcends all worlds, like mind flayers act a certain way everywhere, as do hags.

Mordenkainen's is a bit more specific as it gets into "multiverse" lore like the Blood War, and the war between Gith and Mind Flayers, but I think it too mostly avoids talking about specific material plane worlds.

So it will be interesting if this book tries to mention dragons in specific worlds, such as how important they are in Dragonlance, or whether it will stick to "generic, universal lore," on how these dragon types behave in your typical world.

Mordenkainen's has pages and pages actually, particularly in relation to the player Races, but Volo's has a bit here and there:

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Ugh, didn't the Yuan-Ti god start off as a Greyhawk god? This is like the demihuman gods getting hijacked all over again.

It's like the Forgotten Realms have some sort of magical STD that anything they touch permanently becomes associated with it. (I blame Elminster.)