D&D 5E Is Paladine Bahamut? Is Takhisis Tiamat? Fizban's Treasury Might Reveal The Answer!

According to WotC's James Wyatt, Fizban's Treasury of Dragons introduces a new cosmology for dragon gods, where the same beings, including Fizban, echo across various D&D campaign settings with alternate versions of themselves (presumably like Paladine/Bahamut, or Takhisis/Tiamat). Also... the various version can merge into one single form.

Takhisis is the five-headed dragon god of evil from the Dragonlance setting. Paladine is the platinum dragon god of good (and also Fizban's alter-ego).

Additionally, the book will contain psychic gem dragons, with stats for all four age categories of the five varieties (traditionally there are Amethyst, Crystal, Emerald, Sapphire, and Topaz), plus Dragonborn characters based on metallic, chromatic, and gem dragons.

D&D 5E - Check out Fizban's Alternate Cover!

WotC's James Wyatt talked to Polygon about Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, which also revealed the alternate cover, which you can only get from hobby stores. https://www.enworld.org/threads/fizbans-treasury-the-dragon-book-now-has-a-description-and-a-feat.681399/

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D&D 5E - Fizban's Treasury: The Dragon Book Now Has A Description... And A Feat

Courtesy of Amazon, we now have a description for Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, the October D&D hardcover. The book introduces gem dragons, dragon-themed player options, and plenty of draconic lore! This joins September's The Wild Beyond the Witchlight, and November's Strixhaven: Curriculum of...

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[dave2008]

And still no one will include Saridor in any of their worlds.

The new book will include Saridor, evidently it is the first creation of Tiamat & Bahamut. Sorry I can remember which preview where I read that.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Yes and yes… at least I hope.

I wish they wouldn't, but I think the ship has sailed.

Is this where we find out Dol Arrah and Paladine are the same?

ugh....I really hope not

 

[Parmandur]

I wish they wouldn't, but I think the ship has sailed.

ugh....I really hope not

I'm sure they will discuss how Eberron relates to everything else in the multiverse, considering how primal Dragons are in Eberron.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

hoe primal Drsgons are in Eberron.

I feel like you're risking your life calling dragons that.

 

[dave2008]

I wish they wouldn't, but I think the ship has sailed.

Why not? It seems very odd to have two sets of essentially the same dragon deities and not have them be related in some form. I never realized it was even a thought that they were different entities until hearing about it on these forums in recent years. When I got Dragonlance back in the day, my first thought was: oh, that is a cool name for Tiamat!

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Why not? It seems very odd to have two sets of essentially the same dragon deities and not have them be related in some form. I never realized it was even a thought that they were different entities until hear about on these forums in recent years. When I got Dragonlance back in the day, my first thought was: oh, that is a cool name for Tiamat!

I don't think anyone in the 1E era thought they were different entities until TSR suddenly got very agitated about that idea for some reason and started yelling about them being different creatures with identical appearances and MOs. It was a very silly line for them to draw and I'm glad that WotC keeps walking it back.

 

[This Effin’ GM]

Ooooob just hit me I hope we get some unique stats for Dragotha, Ashardalon (pre and post fiendish heart), and some sorcerer only spells cause chaos bolt isn’t enough.

 

[dave2008]

I don't think anyone in the 1E era thought they were different entities until TSR suddenly got very agitated about that idea for some reason and started yelling about them being different creatures with identical appearances and MOs. It was a very silly line for them to draw and I'm glad that WotC keeps walking it back.

When and where did they start saying that though? I have seen quotes from 2e, 3e, 4e, and 5e that they are one and the same; but I have never seen anything official that said they are different entities. Not saying it doesn't existing, just no one has ever posted it or pointed me to where I can find in any of the recent threads.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

When and where did they start saying that though? I have seen quotes from 2e, 3e, 4e, and 5e that they are one and the same; but I have never seen anything official that said they are different entities. Not saying it doesn't existing, just no one has ever posted it or pointed me to where I can find in any of the recent threads.

I was not a big Dragonlance fan (got through six paperbacks and I was all good), so I don't remember exactly. I do know it was in the 1980s that I heard about it first, and at that time, my only real contact with fandom was TSR official publications. I would guess it was in Dragon magazine at some point, since I don't think I owned any Dragonlance game books.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I would love it if the First World was one of the two completely new settings they were planning.