D&D 5E The October D&D Book is Fizban’s Treasury of Dragons

As revealed by Nerd Immersion by deciphering computer code from D&D Beyond!

Spoiler

Fizban the Fabulous is, of course, the accident-prone, befuddled alter-ego of Dragonlance’s god of good dragons, Paladine, the platinum dragon (Dragonlance’s version of Bahamut).

Which makes my guess earlier this year spot on!

UPDATE -- the book now has a description!

D&D 5E - Fizban's Treasury: The Dragon Book Now Has A Description... And A Feat

Courtesy of Amazon, we now have a description for Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, the October D&D hardcover. The book introduces gem dragons, dragon-themed player options, and plenty of draconic lore! This joins September's The Wild Beyond the Witchlight, and November's Strixhaven: Curriculum of...

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D&D 5E - My guess for the other D&D book this year... Draconomicon!

We know the fifth major product this year will be James Wyatt‘s as-yet unannounced project, and we know it will be coming out this year between Witchlight and Strixhaven. Wyatt co-wrote the Draconomicon for 3E. There have been two recent dragon-themed Unearthed Arcanas — dragon-themed...

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Fizban the Fabulous by Vera Gentinetta

 

[bedir than]

This book will be rather heavy on Tier 3&4 monsters. Which won't do a thing about the people who complain that WotC doesn't support that level of play

 

[darjr]

This book will be rather heavy on Tier 3&4 monsters. Which won't do a thing about the people who complain that WotC doesn't support that level of play

Most people mean adventures when they mean support. But WotC knows that high tier support means other things. Like monsters and places. Mainly BECAUSE high tier adventures are hard to do in a generic enough way that is also satisfying or stiltifying or can't match the specific power level of a table.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Nonsense. That's like calling a gathering of birds a Nest. Also there's too much overlap with the other type of horde. There would be immense confusion between a dragon's hoard and a hoard of dragons and a horde of dragons.

A treasury of dragons might be acceptable, but it's a little on the nose and a tad belittling. As a counter-proposal, I would suggest that treasury be applied to a clutch of pseudodragons, while the appellation for a gathering of true wyrms is a calamity of dragons.

I do what the Inheritance Cycle does (you know, the Eragon books) and call a group of dragons a "Thunder of Dragons", because the noise that's produced by a group of dragons flying together sounds like a thunderstorm.

 

[bedir than]

I do what the Inheritance Cycle does (you know, the Eragon books) and call a group of dragons a "Thunder of Dragons", because the noise that's produced by a group of dragons flying together sounds like a thunderstorm.

I call it a "Hide of Dragons" because that's the best thing I can do if I hear the the sound of dragons coming.

 

[Dire Bare]

To be honest, it sounds more like WotC just stole the First World from Paizo/Pathfinder.
Unless it is really mentioned in older D&D sources and Paizo is the one who stole it.

"Stole"? Such a silly word, especially when talking about elements shared between Pathfinder and D&D, seeing as Pathfinder "stole" it's rules system from D&D, any many of it's setting elements.

I'm not a Pathfinder expert, but it was my understanding that the "First World" in Pathfinder is their name for the Feywild, which is a totally different idea than this D&D "First World", which is a proto-world that existed before the multiverse.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

And again, many major myth systems feature the idea of a primordial world of old that was wiped away before the current, lesser world replaced it. Both companies are drawing water from the same well.

 

[Mind of tempest]

"Stole"? Such a silly word, especially when talking about elements shared between Pathfinder and D&D, seeing as Pathfinder "stole" it's rules system from D&D, any many of it's setting elements.

I'm not a Pathfinder expert, but it was my understanding that the "First World" in Pathfinder is their name for the Feywild, which is a totally different idea than this D&D "First World", which is a proto-world that existed before the multiverse.

this first would of dnd is some sort of earth prime kinda deal?

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

We should remember now the "ferrous" dragons are within the category of metallic dragons. And there are more "neutral" dragons, for example obsidian, pearl and jade.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I think it’s at least 20 types of dragons. But the count will be five chromatic, five metallic, five gem, and five others. Of those five others we know turtle, moonstone, and elder brain.

Elder Brain Dragon isn't a Dragon type, its simply a Elder Brain invading a Dragons body. Not every Dragon creature in the book will get a deep dive, some will just get a blurb and stats.

So if your otherwise right that is

1. Red Dragons
2. Blue Dragons
3. Green Dragons
4. Black Dragons
5. White Dragons
6. Gold Dragons
7. Silver
8. Bronze
9. Brass
10. Copper
11. Sapphire
12. Emerald
13. Crystal
14. Topaz
15. Amethyst
16. Dragon Turtle
17. Moonstone/Gleamstone Dragon?
18. ???
19. ???
20. ???

Some Dragons in the book will likely just be templates for other Dragons types, like Steel Dragons were variants for Silver Dragons, and Shadow Dragon & Dracoliches were templates in the MM. Moonstone/Gleamstone Dragons could be the Feywild equivalent of the Shadow Dragon Template, maybe it turns the Dragon its applied to into a Fey.

 

[Remathilis]

this first would of dnd is some sort of earth prime kinda deal?

Some of ya never read the 4e lore and it shows. [emoji6]

The first world was the original world where the gods lived, before the war with the primordials shattered it into pieces. From it comes the the feywild (the positive elements of it) the Shadowfell (the negative aspects) and the countless prime material worlds of the multiverse.

It was designed to explain many of the commonalities of D&D settings by saying they have an ancient common origin, a proto-world that accounts for halflings, magic missile and copper dragons being on most worlds without resorting to parallel evolution (creation), spelljamming and planeswalkimg to cross pollinate everything.

It will be interesting how much of the
Nerarth style first world is actually used, but it's intriguing they have bothered to mention it all. I suspect this is a backdoor way to explain the Paladins/Bahamut issue as well as set up some additional lore changes to shift away from the classic good/evil creator God model of explaining racial alignment.