D&D 5E The best solution for longswords

[UngeheuerLich]

Mainly 2)
longsword as is is now bastard sword.
Instead of removing the rapier, add longsword as d8 finesse slashing weapon.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

On a different note: 1 and 1/2 handed style is totally neglected in dnd, which isna shame.

 

[Oofta]

I wonder if some day (once teleporters are invented) people will be having these sorts of debates about cars. "No, station wagons were used to transport people and baggage between train stations and homes; they weren't intended for families. That would be called a 'minivan' and was slightly taller, with sliding doors."

Try explaining that a station wagon is not a hatchback is not a because a station wagon is longer. When it's a little taller but not necessarily as long as a station wagon it's a crossover. If it's long and tall it's an SUV. An SUV is definitely in a different category than hatchback, they have nothing in common. Then there are pickup trucks ... watch their heads explode while repeatedly saying "It does not compute!"

 

[niklinna]

Try explaining that a station wagon is not a hatchback is not a because a station wagon is longer. When it's a little taller but not necessarily as long as a station wagon it's a crossover. If it's long and tall it's an SUV. An SUV is definitely in a different category than hatchback, they have nothing in common. Then there are pickup trucks ... watch their heads explode while repeatedly saying "It does not compute!"

And that's when you hit 'em with an El Camino.

EDIT: Which I just learned is a specific type of coupé utility vehicle. The more you know!

 

[Charlaquin]

What do you mean these are different vehicles?

 

[Bill Zebub]

And that's when you hit 'em with an El Camino.

EDIT: Which I just learned is a specific type of coupé utility vehicle. The more you know!

And the Subaru Brat.

That's going to be the source of long, acrimonious forum debates in the future.

 

[Coroc]

I think this is only true in fantasy. I think historically bastard swords were used two-handed or used from horseback.

Ahm thats what i wrote. "Hand and half" though is afaik naming convention dunno atm if of todays science only or also historical. It does not derive from fantasy only of that i am sure.

 

[Coroc]

On a different note: 1 and 1/2 handed style is totally neglected in dnd, which isna shame.

Well is there a style attached especially for bastard swords which you cannot do with 2 handed swords? (Pure one handed swords are out here of course because they lack the versatility). My knowledgd is that 1 1/2 derives from the lenght of the hiltwhich is designed so you can put 2 hands on it although sometimes the second hand surrounds the pommel eventually in some cases, other than with Zweihänders which more often than not hafe a hilt which could accomodate several hands more (about 0,5 m hilt length)

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Well is there a style attached especially for bastard swords which you cannot do with 2 handed swords? (Pure one handed swords are out here of course because they lack the versatility). My knowledgd is that 1 1/2 derives from the lenght of the hiltwhich is designed so you can put 2 hands on it although sometimes the second hand surrounds the pommel eventually in some cases, other than with Zweihänders which more often than not hafe a hilt which could accomodate several hands more (about 0,5 m hilt length)

Exactly.
The longsword was usually used without a shield as I understand. The free hand (with gauntlet of course) was used to grasp for your own or even the enemy blade. Directly above the crossbar your sword was blunt so you could even thrust with the back of your sword.

These pictures sum it up quite well:

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[Bill Zebub]

Somewhere in here there's a really good joke about hand size and the origin of sword terminology...