The Batman - Official 4K Trailer (2022) Robert Pattinson, Zoe Kravitz | DC FanDome 2021

[R_J_K75]

I think moving away from what the Dark Knight trilogy did would be a good move

Totally agree. I think those are the new ruler to measure future Batman films. As good as Nolans trilogy was I dont want all future screen adaptations mimicking them.

 

[R_J_K75]

You said standalone movies, which is what I was relying to. If you didn’t mean standalone movies, ignore my reply.

I was referring to standalones but your reply made me realize subconsciously I meant the character itself to me seems to be coming close to oversaturation...again just my opinion.

 

[MarkB]

well, no pearls hitting the ground or even a reference that I could see to his parents, so that's refreshing.

Well, he does say "I am vengeance", so presumably the movie will be presenting us with something for him to be revenging against.

 

[Morrus]

well, no pearls hitting the ground or even a reference that I could see to his parents, so that's refreshing.

BUT HOW WE WILL EVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO BATMANS PARENTS

 

[R_J_K75]

BUT HOW WE WILL EVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO BATMANS PARENTS

 

[ReshiIRE]

BUT HOW WE WILL EVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO BATMANS PARENTS

Somewhat off-topic, but this problem of repeating origins could be painfully seen in the Amazing Spiderman. Now, in many aspects I think that movie is actually surprisingly good - I had heard it was bad but it seemed nearly on par with Rami's first Spiderman movie (it seems there's a lot more problems with the second film - the visual design for the Green Goblin in particular is... poor).

However, it has a big structural problem in that too much run time is taken up by the origin. While it might have meant missing out on some good scenes with Gwen, I felt the intro and origin could have been rushed (as the audience understands it) and to get onto the new stuff - the background with Peter's father, Connors and Obscorpe, more around Gwen, more resolution for tracking down Ben's killer etc. - that would have made less of the last hour of the film feel like a rush, and to give space and time to breath.

Having the origin of Spiderman done in film for Rami's first film was an excellent idea; it really didn't need to be done again even with the differences in character, as the MCU's Civil War and Spider Man Homecoming proved.

Which is why the fact this film seems like it's going to skip all that origin stuff - or go through it very slightly - is so god damn blessed. It's been done twice; it really doesn't need to be done again.

 

[Morrus]

Somewhat off-topic, but this problem of repeating origins could be painfully seen in the Amazing Spiderman. Now, in many aspects I think that movie is actually surprisingly good - I had heard it was bad but it seemed nearly on par with Rami's first Spiderman movie (it seems there's a lot more problems with the second film - the visual design for the Green Goblin in particular is... poor).

However, it has a big structural problem in that too much run time is taken up by the origin. While it might have meant missing out on some good scenes with Gwen, I felt the intro and origin could have been rushed (as the audience understands it) and to get onto the new stuff - the background with Peter's father, Connors and Obscorpe, more around Gwen, more resolution for tracking down Ben's killer etc. - that would have made less of the last hour of the film feel like a rush, and to give space and time to breath.

Having the origin of Spiderman done in film for Rami's first film was an excellent idea; it really didn't need to be done again even with the differences in character, as the MCU's Civil War and Spider Man Homecoming proved.

Which is why the fact this film seems like it's going to skip all that origin stuff - or go through it very slightly - is so god damn blessed. It's been done twice; it really doesn't need to be done again.

Yes, the joke works for Spidey flicks too.

 

[R_J_K75]

Somewhat off-topic, but this problem of repeating origins could be painfully seen in the Amazing Spiderman. Now, in many aspects I think that movie is actually surprisingly good - I had heard it was bad but it seemed nearly on par with Rami's first Spiderman movie (it seems there's a lot more problems with the second film - the visual design for the Green Goblin in particular is... poor).

However, it has a big structural problem in that too much run time is taken up by the origin. While it might have meant missing out on some good scenes with Gwen, I felt the intro and origin could have been rushed (as the audience understands it) and to get onto the new stuff - the background with Peter's father, Connors and Obscorpe, more around Gwen, more resolution for tracking down Ben's killer etc. - that would have made less of the last hour of the film feel like a rush, and to give space and time to breath.

Having the origin of Spiderman done in film for Rami's first film was an excellent idea; it really didn't need to be done again even with the differences in character, as the MCU's Civil War and Spider Man Homecoming proved.

Which is why the fact this film seems like it's going to skip all that origin stuff - or go through it very slightly - is so god damn blessed. It's been done twice; it really doesn't need to be done again.

Seeing as in these movies are somewhat aimed at a target audience I agree the origins dont need to be repeated.

 

[MarkB]

Somewhat off-topic, but this problem of repeating origins could be painfully seen in the Amazing Spiderman. Now, in many aspects I think that movie is actually surprisingly good - I had heard it was bad but it seemed nearly on par with Rami's first Spiderman movie (it seems there's a lot more problems with the second film - the visual design for the Green Goblin in particular is... poor).

However, it has a big structural problem in that too much run time is taken up by the origin. While it might have meant missing out on some good scenes with Gwen, I felt the intro and origin could have been rushed (as the audience understands it) and to get onto the new stuff - the background with Peter's father, Connors and Obscorpe, more around Gwen, more resolution for tracking down Ben's killer etc. - that would have made less of the last hour of the film feel like a rush, and to give space and time to breath.

Having the origin of Spiderman done in film for Rami's first film was an excellent idea; it really didn't need to be done again even with the differences in character, as the MCU's Civil War and Spider Man Homecoming proved.

Which is why the fact this film seems like it's going to skip all that origin stuff - or go through it very slightly - is so god damn blessed. It's been done twice; it really doesn't need to be done again.

Yeah, one thing I appreciated about Spider-man Homecoming (and the PS5 Spider-man game) is that they start us with Spider-man already established, and let us get to know him through his present-day interactions.

Though I tried to re-watch Homecoming recently, and the amount of teen drama is tough to sit through on a second viewing. I stalled out around the Washington trip.

 

[Morrus]

I was referring to standalones but your reply made me realize subconsciously I meant the character itself to me seems to be coming close to oversaturation...again just my opinion.

Well, I'd prefer they keep making them, so how about they make them, and I watch them and you don't? Then we both get what we want!