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The Batman - Official 4K Trailer (2022) Robert Pattinson, Zoe Kravitz | DC FanDome 2021


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MarkB

Legend
Feels like it wants to be The Dark Knight Returns, what with the Joker-themed gangs, some of the set-pieces, and the air of cynical brutality.

Making the Riddler the primary antagonist is a bold choice, but looks like it may work for them.
 

payn

Legend
Nirvana cover? Pretty 2021 blasé. I do like Jefferey Wright so maybe. Tho, most likely wait for HBO Max release.
 


Feels like it wants to be The Dark Knight Returns, what with the Joker-themed gangs, some of the set-pieces, and the air of cynical brutality.

Making the Riddler the primary antagonist is a bold choice, but looks like it may work for them.
Thats what I got out of the trailer too. I thought it was supposed to be more of a detective noir than an action flick which I didnt get that vibe from this preview.
Tho, most likely wait for HBO Max release.
Yeah same here. Im almost to the point that I feel the standalone Batman movies should be put on ice for a few years. I know this has been in development for quite a while and if the pandemic hadnt happened it have been out sooner, seems the franchise may start suffering from over saturation.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Yeah same here. Im almost to the point that I feel the standalone Batman movies should be put on ice for a few years. I know this has been in development for quite a while and if the pandemic hadnt happened it have been out sooner, seems the franchise may start suffering from over saturation.
How many years? They've been on ice for nearly 10 years. The last standalone Batman movie was The Dark Knight Rises in 2012.
 

ReshiIRE

Adventurer
I'm going to adopt a more wait and see approach. People had been saying this would be a more detective-aligned, less action based film, and that doesn't seem to be clear from the trailer; I think moving away from what the Dark Knight trilogy did would be a good move - and I'm not sure if there's enough of a difference in this one. Plus, I'm hesitant of both Warner Brothers for a variety of reasons, and have become concious that the Batman character has undertones that perhaps need to be addressed.

It's definitely striking visually however; it feels in a way inspired by films like Blade Runner 2049, which was an utterly fabulous film.
 

How many years? They've been on ice for nearly 10 years. The last standalone Batman movie was The Dark Knight Rises in 2012.
Batmans been in 2 movies since tDKR. Theres at least 2 in the upcoming Flash movie which with the return of Affleck and Keaton seems to have eclipsed this movie in anticipation. Because the movies been talked about for quite some time makes it seem its been around longer than it has. My personal preference would be after this movie or movies, put it on ice for at least 5 years before beginning to develop another.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Batmans been in 2 movies since tDKR. Theres at least 2 in the upcoming Flash movie which with the return of Affleck and Keaton seems to have eclipsed this movie in anticipation. Because the movies been talked about for quite some time makes it seem its been around longer than it has. My personal preference would be after this movie or movies, put it on ice for at least 5 years before beginning to develop another.
You said standalone movies, which is what I was relying to. If you didn’t mean standalone movies, ignore my reply.
 


You said standalone movies, which is what I was relying to. If you didn’t mean standalone movies, ignore my reply.
I was referring to standalones but your reply made me realize subconsciously I meant the character itself to me seems to be coming close to oversaturation...again just my opinion.
 



BUT HOW WE WILL EVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO BATMANS PARENTS
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ReshiIRE

Adventurer
BUT HOW WE WILL EVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO BATMANS PARENTS
Somewhat off-topic, but this problem of repeating origins could be painfully seen in the Amazing Spiderman. Now, in many aspects I think that movie is actually surprisingly good - I had heard it was bad but it seemed nearly on par with Rami's first Spiderman movie (it seems there's a lot more problems with the second film - the visual design for the Green Goblin in particular is... poor).

However, it has a big structural problem in that too much run time is taken up by the origin. While it might have meant missing out on some good scenes with Gwen, I felt the intro and origin could have been rushed (as the audience understands it) and to get onto the new stuff - the background with Peter's father, Connors and Obscorpe, more around Gwen, more resolution for tracking down Ben's killer etc. - that would have made less of the last hour of the film feel like a rush, and to give space and time to breath.

Having the origin of Spiderman done in film for Rami's first film was an excellent idea; it really didn't need to be done again even with the differences in character, as the MCU's Civil War and Spider Man Homecoming proved.

Which is why the fact this film seems like it's going to skip all that origin stuff - or go through it very slightly - is so god damn blessed. It's been done twice; it really doesn't need to be done again.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Somewhat off-topic, but this problem of repeating origins could be painfully seen in the Amazing Spiderman. Now, in many aspects I think that movie is actually surprisingly good - I had heard it was bad but it seemed nearly on par with Rami's first Spiderman movie (it seems there's a lot more problems with the second film - the visual design for the Green Goblin in particular is... poor).

However, it has a big structural problem in that too much run time is taken up by the origin. While it might have meant missing out on some good scenes with Gwen, I felt the intro and origin could have been rushed (as the audience understands it) and to get onto the new stuff - the background with Peter's father, Connors and Obscorpe, more around Gwen, more resolution for tracking down Ben's killer etc. - that would have made less of the last hour of the film feel like a rush, and to give space and time to breath.

Having the origin of Spiderman done in film for Rami's first film was an excellent idea; it really didn't need to be done again even with the differences in character, as the MCU's Civil War and Spider Man Homecoming proved.

Which is why the fact this film seems like it's going to skip all that origin stuff - or go through it very slightly - is so god damn blessed. It's been done twice; it really doesn't need to be done again.
Yes, the joke works for Spidey flicks too.
 

Somewhat off-topic, but this problem of repeating origins could be painfully seen in the Amazing Spiderman. Now, in many aspects I think that movie is actually surprisingly good - I had heard it was bad but it seemed nearly on par with Rami's first Spiderman movie (it seems there's a lot more problems with the second film - the visual design for the Green Goblin in particular is... poor).

However, it has a big structural problem in that too much run time is taken up by the origin. While it might have meant missing out on some good scenes with Gwen, I felt the intro and origin could have been rushed (as the audience understands it) and to get onto the new stuff - the background with Peter's father, Connors and Obscorpe, more around Gwen, more resolution for tracking down Ben's killer etc. - that would have made less of the last hour of the film feel like a rush, and to give space and time to breath.

Having the origin of Spiderman done in film for Rami's first film was an excellent idea; it really didn't need to be done again even with the differences in character, as the MCU's Civil War and Spider Man Homecoming proved.

Which is why the fact this film seems like it's going to skip all that origin stuff - or go through it very slightly - is so god damn blessed. It's been done twice; it really doesn't need to be done again.
Seeing as in these movies are somewhat aimed at a target audience I agree the origins dont need to be repeated.
 

MarkB

Legend
Somewhat off-topic, but this problem of repeating origins could be painfully seen in the Amazing Spiderman. Now, in many aspects I think that movie is actually surprisingly good - I had heard it was bad but it seemed nearly on par with Rami's first Spiderman movie (it seems there's a lot more problems with the second film - the visual design for the Green Goblin in particular is... poor).

However, it has a big structural problem in that too much run time is taken up by the origin. While it might have meant missing out on some good scenes with Gwen, I felt the intro and origin could have been rushed (as the audience understands it) and to get onto the new stuff - the background with Peter's father, Connors and Obscorpe, more around Gwen, more resolution for tracking down Ben's killer etc. - that would have made less of the last hour of the film feel like a rush, and to give space and time to breath.

Having the origin of Spiderman done in film for Rami's first film was an excellent idea; it really didn't need to be done again even with the differences in character, as the MCU's Civil War and Spider Man Homecoming proved.

Which is why the fact this film seems like it's going to skip all that origin stuff - or go through it very slightly - is so god damn blessed. It's been done twice; it really doesn't need to be done again.
Yeah, one thing I appreciated about Spider-man Homecoming (and the PS5 Spider-man game) is that they start us with Spider-man already established, and let us get to know him through his present-day interactions.

Though I tried to re-watch Homecoming recently, and the amount of teen drama is tough to sit through on a second viewing. I stalled out around the Washington trip.
 


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