D&D 5E Wow! No more subraces. The Players Handbook races reformat to the new race format going forward.

[Scribe]

Why? Why insist that all members of a race are the same? And if they have to all be the same, why allow people to roll or assign stats at all?

It doesn't say everyone is the same.

It says that taken as a whole Goliaths and Orcs, are stronger than Halflings, and that Elves are more dexterous than Dwarves.

It's talking not about individuals, but as racial archetypes/tropes.

Of which individuals are part of.

 

[Maxperson]

um...what makes unbalanced things fun?

Variation. Perfect balance = same. Once you deviate by giving some variation, you've introduced imbalance. The more the variation, the more combos you will find that work well, and others that don't(imbalance), but also more enjoyment in being different and being able to to different things than the others at the table.

 

[HammerMan]

Variation. Perfect balance = same. Once you deviate by giving some variation, you've introduced imbalance. The more the variation, the more combos you will find that work well, and others that don't(imbalance), but also more enjoyment in being different and being able to to different things than the others at the table.

I will have to agree to disagree on you assessment of balance.

in my mind balance is have a choice A or B and both being equal good, but in different ways.

 

[Maxperson]

I will have to agree to disagree on you assessment of balance.

in my mind balance is have a choice A or B and both being equal good, but in different ways.

You can't make them equal. That's a pipedream. They might be close, depending on how you approach it, but they will not be equal.

 

[Umbran]

You can't make them equal. That's a pipedream. They might be close, depending on how you approach it, but they will not be equal.

Consider the differences between "equal" and "equitable", and how nitpicking the between them may not be constructive.

 

[Maxperson]

Consider the differences between "equal" and "equitable", and how nitpicking the between them may not be constructive.

I don't think either one is truly achievable once you start introducing differences. An RPG is too complex for either one.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Balance is useful, but overrated imo. Some choices are just better than others, and forcing them not to be snaps my reality suspenders hard.

 

[HammerMan]

Balance is useful, but overrated imo. Some choices are just better than others, and forcing them not to be snaps my reality suspenders hard.

i see no reason that your suspension of disbelief is more important then the playability of a fantasy game where we pretend to be heroes...

 

[Maxperson]

i see no reason that your suspension of disbelief is more important then the playability of a fantasy game where we pretend to be heroes...

Even 3e, the most unbalanced edition of D&D yet, was very playable and fun.

 

[HammerMan]

Even 3e, the most unbalanced edition of D&D yet, was very playable and fun.

I will again respectable disagree.