No one saidEncouraging is not the same as mandating.
Ok...No one said
That's the point.
WOTC kept suggesting "Your prime ability score should be 16", "Your prime ability score should be 16", "Your prime ability score should be 16", "Your prime ability score should be 16".
So guess what happened when the newer and later generation of players wanted to play non-racial-stereotypes.
They wanted primary ability scores of at least 16.
Yes, this is a failure by Wizards to reflect and reinforce that diverse options already existed, and Tasha's absolutely wasn't necessary.No one said
That's the point.
WOTC kept suggesting "Your prime ability score should be 16", "Your prime ability score should be 16", "Your prime ability score should be 16", "Your prime ability score should be 16".
So guess what happened when the newer and later generation of players wanted to play non-racial-stereotypes.
They wanted primary ability scores of at least 16
Ok...
There are more things to consider.
I think now mountain dwarves are picked for wizards more often, since they get +2 con +2 int and medium armor. A very good (overpowered) package for the wizard. That is what I would not like.
This needs to go. Actually I probably ban mountaon dwarves from customizing your stats as I think it is too much.
Hill dwarves must do now.
Recommend, Quick Build, type language, for people with little D&D exposure, is not a mandate.
It's like saying the system 'expects' or 'requires' a +5 modifier to function at level 1 like we have been told for months.
There is no such thing.
Ok...
There are more things to consider.
I think now mountain dwarves are picked for wizards more often, since they get +2 con +2 int and medium armor. A very good (overpowered) package for the wizard. That is what I would not like.
This needs to go. Actually I probably ban mountaon dwarves from customizing your stats as I think it is too much.
Hill dwarves must do now.
It was perfectly fine. Str +2 and armlr proficiency's usefulness were mutually exclusive. One without the other was rather underwhelming, together it was a nice combination.Mountain Dwarf being the only 2 +2 kinda shows that WOTC wasn't really thinking about or playtesting unusual race class combinations.
It think one of the issues with the 5e playtest was that since they constantly did huge changes, people rarely tested anything unusual.
It was perfectly fine. Str +2 and armlr proficiency's usefulness were mutually exclusive. One without the other was rather underwhelming, together it was a nice combination.
Before Tasha, no problem at all. After tasha, still nothing gamebreaking, but annoying because the argument that being able to shift your scores to make the space of combinations bigger is flawed.
So 5.5 needs to take a serious look at races and give other iconic abilities.
The harengon is a great example of how you could do it. Give a useful bonus that helps every class feel more dextrous, no matter how the stats are distributed.
I did not like the direction of v-shaped classes to A-shaped classes.Like I and many like @Faolyn said before, 5e was built on the assumption of PCs being racial stereotypes.
This is different from something like 4e which went out of its way to present races in different lights to many classes.
- 4e gave every ability score a class or 2 that uses it as primary ability score from the start.
- 4e stressed the importance of secondary ability scores and pushed the idea of using races with adjustments to secondary scores.
- 4e eventually gave classes more and more support for primary and secondary ability scores and pushed (2) more.
And even there 4e moved to giving races options of secondary ability boosts. 5e repeated 4e's mistakes harder and isfixing it with more drastic solutions.
I did not like the direction of v-shaped classes to A-shaped classes.
Also in 4e there was the problem of uncapped scores, so maintaining two main stats and a third one on top difficult.
Effectively characters usually only took on of the 2 secondaries/primaries.
So usually races were pushed into certain classes with specific "sub-classes" even more heavily than in 5e. I don't know how you get to your conclusion.
On what page(s) did they say this?WOTC kept suggesting "Your prime ability score should be 16", "Your prime ability score should be 16", "Your prime ability score should be 16", "Your prime ability score should be 16".
Only if they are the sort of players who flip out over the difference between a 16 and a 15. Which does not describe every player, or even every new-to-5E player.So guess what happened when the newer and later generation of players wanted to play non-racial-stereotypes.
They wanted primary ability scores of at least 16.
It's not unprecedented in Fantasy. Elrond identified as an elf, his full brother Elros as human.
False Equivalence. Similarities in birth don't make you the same race. Elves, halflings, and humans are all born the same way. After a long labor. With two arms, two legs and a head. And so on.
Demons are not celestials which are not slaads which are not geneies which are not... They are objectively not the same races. This is born out by the books.
Those would not be a genasi or an aasimar. Those would be a half-genie and a half-celestial, which is very different. And yes, they are different races and have been in every edition with half-races. Just like a half-elf is a different race from both of his parents.
And again, since you keep dodging it. Please address the fact that planetouched isn't even a thing in 5e.
PHB 12-13On what page(s) did they say this?
It wasn't every player.Only if they are the sort of players who flip out over the difference between a 16 and a 15. Which does not describe every player, or even every new-to-5E player.
Assuming it was ever about the 16.However there had to be many of those players for them to make the Tasha change.
So all of that is a big bunch of poodoo.Sure, demons aren't celestials, but Devils were. And Tieflings are more closely tied to devils than demons anyways.
And again, other than just a blanket "they aren't" you haven't actually... argued anything. You are just declaring that you are right without any evidence. And somehow all Genasi are a race even though some are half-genies and the others are magically irradiated humans. But a magically irradiated human who has celestial radiation is now a completely different species?
Those races exist. Planetouched as a category does not. You can make it for your game, but it does not exist in 5e.Children of Genie is a valid choice for Genasi. Children of Celestials is literally the main choice for Aasimar. So, no, they aren't things that don't exist in DnD 5e
If you make it so, it is so. I mean bloodtouched just means creatures that are touched by blood, so there are only two races, right, Warforged and everything else, right? Just because you can point to something in common, does not make them the same race.And, again, planetouched IS a thing in 5e. It literally just meant "those touched by the planes".
Same as they were in 3e, too. Separate races.considering each of the planetouched are in a different book and aren't listed in anyway close to each other.