Roll20's Latest Usage Report: D&D Steady, Cthulhu Down!

Roll20 has released it's latest quarterly report -- and has a new format which features less numbers but prettier graphics! Everything is percentages now, rather than absolute numbers.

D&D is in the lead as ever at 52.7% (down 1%), followed by Call of Cthulhu at 11.9% (down 4.4%) then Pathfinder at 3.2% (down 0.2%) (Pathfinder users apparently use Foundry these days). That's a big drop for Cthulhu which has been on a steady rise for the last year or two.

D&D and Call of Cthulhu Climb Again in Roll20's Latest Stats

Roll20 has released its latest usage figures. These are for Q2, 2021. And they have a new fancy format! D&D is, of course, still right up there at the top with nearly 54% of the market -- up from 53% in Q1 of this year. Call of Cthulhu continues its inexorable rise, climbing from 11% to 16%...

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Some systems are called out --

• Tormenta (Brazilian) rose 45%
• Vampire the Masquerade rose 500%(!)
• Powerd by the Apocalypse is up 130%
• World of Darkness overall is up 550%
• WFRP is up 50%
• Modiphius' 2d20 is up 160%

 

[kayman]

If you play PF2 you MUST use Foundry . I ran AoA on Roll 20 and A.V. and SoT (current) on foundry . IMHO , there is no choice to be made . Use Foundry .

 

[Retreater]

Pathfinder - 3.2%
Pathfinder 2 - 1.4%

Those results are interesting. Will PF2 ever outdo PF1?

I doubt it. PF1 hit at the perfect time. D&D would have to again lose market dominance to see a rival system get that popular. And I don't see that happening during the lifespan of PF2.
If you're asking if it will outdo the 3.2% on Roll20, that's a maybe. More likely PF1 will continue to drop on Roll20 and PF2 will increase a little bit.
But I do expect a later day resurgence for PF2, like how 4e (and even TSR era D&D) is being reconsidered these days.

 

[Higgs]

They’re on Foundry, apparently

We sure are!

 

[Higgs]

I doubt it. PF1 hit at the perfect time. D&D would have to again lose market dominance to see a rival system get that popular. And I don't see that happening during the lifespan of PF2.
If you're asking if it will outdo the 3.2% on Roll20, that's a maybe. More likely PF1 will continue to drop on Roll20 and PF2 will increase a little bit.
But I do expect a later day resurgence for PF2, like how 4e (and even TSR era D&D) is being reconsidered these days.

Roll20 is not an accurate measure of PF2 vs PF1 overall. I'm not even a little surprised that PF1 is still more popular on roll20

 

[Retreater]

Roll20 is not an accurate measure of PF2 vs PF1 overall. I'm not even a little surprised that PF1 is still more popular on roll20

Roll20 has the lion's share of VTT users. Proportionately, PF2 should be higher there if it's being widely adopted - even if a good chunk of the players are on Foundry.
But the PF2 fans will cite any exception to make it look like the system is widely in use.
No one's playing on Roll20? Well, that's because everyone is playing on Foundry.
Books languishing on store shelves? Well, that's because everyone is buying online, using Archives of Nethys, etc.
Numbers are low on Amazon? Well, that's because everyone is buying directly from Paizo.
Can't find local PFS events? Well, that's because of the pandemic, everyone's playing on Foundry, etc.

It's okay to like a system that isn't popular. I'm running a PbtA game and a WFRP game at the moment on Roll20. I'm not under the illusion that either system rivals 5e in popularity.

 

[FrogReaver]

Roll20 is not an accurate measure of PF2 vs PF1 overall. I'm not even a little surprised that PF1 is still more popular on roll20

Why?

 

[FrogReaver]

Roll20 has the lion's share of VTT users. Proportionately, PF2 should be higher there if it's being widely adopted - even if a good chunk of the players are on Foundry.
But the PF2 fans will cite any exception to make it look like the system is widely in use.
No one's playing on Roll20? Well, that's because everyone is playing on Foundry.
Books languishing on store shelves? Well, that's because everyone is buying online, using Archives of Nethys, etc.
Numbers are low on Amazon? Well, that's because everyone is buying directly from Paizo.
Can't find local PFS events? Well, that's because of the pandemic, everyone's playing on Foundry, etc.

It's okay to like a system that isn't popular. I'm running a PbtA game and a WFRP game at the moment on Roll20. I'm not under the illusion that either system rivals 5e in popularity.

There could be good reasons PF2 players haven't adopted roll20 while PF1 players did.

Say PF2 had poor support on roll20 while another VTT had much better support. Say PF1 was heavily supported on roll20 and not very supported anywhere else.

I don't know enough about the community to say.

 

[FrogReaver]

If you play PF2 you MUST use Foundry . I ran AoA on Roll 20 and A.V. and SoT (current) on foundry . IMHO , there is no choice to be made . Use Foundry .

Out of curiosity should a D&D 5e group use roll20 or foundry? Is doing so of the same level of importance as it is for the pathfinder 2 group?

 

[Retreater]

Out of curiosity should a D&D 5e group use roll20 or foundry? Is doing so of the same level of importance as it is for the pathfinder 2 group?

Are you using official content on 5e? Running adventures? Using supplements? All that is available to purchase on Roll20. Foundry has the ability (sometimes) to link to what you purchase on D&D Beyond (as does Roll20), but no official marketplace.
I say "sometimes" because the add-ons to link to D&D Beyond are unofficial, get taken down, perhaps illegal. If you don't use that, you're programming everything into Foundry yourself. Every class, spell, monster, etc, that isn't in the SRD.

 

[FrogReaver]

Are you using official content on 5e? Running adventures? Using supplements? All that is available to purchase on Roll20. Foundry has the ability (sometimes) to link to what you purchase on D&D Beyond (as does Roll20), but no official marketplace.
I say "sometimes" because the add-ons to link to D&D Beyond are unofficial, get taken down, perhaps illegal. If you don't use that, you're programming everything into Foundry yourself. Every class, spell, monster, etc, that isn't in the SRD.

Then I'm not understanding what makes that better for PF2 than roll20?