D&D 5E Charm, the evil spells

[HammerMan]

Not so good example. What's the difference between giving money to a beggar because someone Suggested it and giving money to a beggar because someone's holding a sword to your throat? In the end, not much, I think.

I still have choices (all bad) with the knife to my neck. Charm doesn't just externally force, it effects your very core self (your mind)

 

[Faolyn]

Good example.

Not so good example. What's the difference between giving money to a beggar because someone Suggested it and giving money to a beggar because someone's holding a sword to your throat and telling you to? In the end, not much, I think.

That's exactly the point (that I was trying to make to Maxperson): you're using evil means to get a good result.

 

[Scribe]

I still have choices (all bad) with the knife to my neck. Charm doesn't just externally force, it effects your very core self (your mind)

Indeed.

So I'm playing a Fey touched Sorcerer. My son's watching me play, and I intentionally have focused this character on the usual enchantment spells. Charms, Holds, Hideous Laughter....

So I'm up against that tier's big bad, he's got high resist and will saves, but I'm laser focused on breaking through those things.

End result: He's helpless on the ground laughing, while getting hacked to pieces.

My son (hes 17, dont worry) "That is absolutely horrific."

Anecdotal, but a Fireball just didnt seem to have the same impact on my son's perception of prior encounters.