TSR I think we’ve finally made it!

[Mistwell]

I don't think anything in this brief description is antisemitic in any way. I think whatever that was, it's a reference to something IN the adventure and not in the short description.

 

[teitan]

I don't think anything in this brief description is antisemitic in any way. I think whatever that was, it's a reference to something IN the adventure and not in the short description.

It's the well poisoning reference.

 

[Mistwell]

It's the well poisoning reference.

I have my doubts that's the case. That's not a well known trope. Hard to dog whistle if almost nobody can connect the dots.

 

[teitan]

I have my doubts that's the case. That's not a well known trope. Hard to dog whistle if almost nobody can connect the dots.

AGreed

 

[Staffan]

I don't think anything in this brief description is antisemitic in any way. I think whatever that was, it's a reference to something IN the adventure and not in the short description.

It's the well poisoning reference.

I have my doubts that's the case. That's not a well known trope. Hard to dog whistle if almost nobody can connect the dots.

Yeah, for once I agree with Mistwell. There's plenty of bigotry coming out of nuTSR without us having to make things up.

The way I see it (as a gentile) is that Jews have been the scapegoat of Europe since Rome, and have been falsely accused of all sorts of villainy. If we're going to call out everything that Jews have historically been accused of as antisemitic dogwhistles, there's not going to be much left for our villains to do.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I have my doubts that's the case. That's not a well known trope. Hard to dog whistle if almost nobody can connect the dots.

I know it. Historically it was a big deal in Britain.

 

[Willie the Duck]

I know it. Historically it was a big deal in Britain.

In America, it is mostly known as an informal fallacy/flawed debate tactic. I have to agree with the others, the likelihood that the NuTSR crew knew about well-poisoning as an anti-Semitic canard is relatively low, and the likelihood of them using it as a deliberate dog whistle even lower. Also they put out so much toxicity that we don't need to put this much work into wringing another one out of their published comments. They were in all likelihood taking a petulant potshot at Morrus, which itself shows just exactly the level of class with which we are dealing.

 

[GuyBoy]

In America, it is mostly known as an informal fallacy/flawed debate tactic. I have to agree with the others, the likelihood that the NuTSR crew knew about well-poisoning as an anti-Semitic canard is relatively low, and the likelihood of them using it as a deliberate dog whistle even lower. Also that put out so much toxicity that we don't need to put this much work into wringing another one out of their published comments. They were in all likelihood taking a petulant potshot at Morrus, which itself shows just exactly the level of class with which we are dealing.

Your point is a good one but if they are students of medieval history, as D&D players often are (at least informally), their chances of knowing about well-poisoning being an anti-Semitic message rises quite markedly. Even more so if they’ve studied the Black Death period in any depth, where this was at its height and led to dreadful incidents in France, England and “Germany.”

That said, if LaNasa was in any way studious, he might be able to use Grammar more coherently.

 

[Vaalingrade]

It's very hard to give these guys benefit of the doubt, and I'm not, but it's possible to be a bigoted scumbag to one group without being a bigoted scumbag to all groups.

 

[Umbran]

Your point is a good one but if they are students of medieval history, as D&D players often are (at least informally

Students? You think these people... study things and gain actual knowledge?