Ukraine invasion

[Zardnaar]

Uh, you do realize that the majority of NATO is made up of European nations?

And as global as the economy is, the aftereffects of this will impact people in North America (and most other nations in the world), however it turns out. The pandemic and current global supply issues have shown this of late.

As far as WWIII, it's not like WWI and WWII started over European issues... I agree we need to proceed carefully, but if the default policy is always "dictators with nukes can do anything they want" that is only going to get worse for everyone.

A few if them have underfunded the militaries though UK and Germany come to mind.

France would be the only big member in any shape to fight and vs Russia one can probably count on the Poles.

 

[J.Quondam]

Good. The last thing we need is NATO soliders getting into direct conflict with Russian soldiers or having NATO caught directly supplying the Ukraine or have NATO trying to enforce a 'no fly zone' in Ukrainian air space. I have less than zero desire to see WWIII start over a bunch of Euro BS. This is NOT a North American problem. Let portugal or spain or ireland or italy or any one of the dozens and dozens of Euro countries deal with it.

To be sure, isolationism didn't keep the US out of WWI or WWII, and it wouldn't keep us out of WWIII, certainly not in a world where communications and economies are vastly more intertwined than then. And of course it doesn't help matters that growing chunks of western electorates and media have been swallowing Kremlin talking points for several years now.
The "not our problem" ship sailed a long time ago.

 

[Morrus]

Good. The last thing we need is NATO soliders getting into direct conflict with Russian soldiers or having NATO caught directly supplying the Ukraine or have NATO trying to enforce a 'no fly zone' in Ukrainian air space. I have less than zero desire to see WWIII start over a bunch of Euro BS. This is NOT a North American problem. Let portugal or spain or ireland or italy or any one of the dozens and dozens of Euro countries deal with it.

You need to not post in this thread again. We don't have much tolerance for xenophobic rants like this.

 

[Morrus]

Back to humanitarian efforts, please, folks.

 

[Mezuka]

John Wick on television this afternoon. The opening scene of the movie takes on a whole new meaning with the invasion of Ukraine.

 

[Imaculata]

My company has employees working in Odessa, where a lot of fighting is taking place right now. We have no idea if they are still alive, but we've assured them that they will continue to be paid, and hope they are safe.

I have lots of friends living in Ukraine, and the thought that they may no longer be alive, makes me feel sick.

 

[Zardnaar]

My company has employees working in Odessa, where a lot of fighting is taking place right now. We have no idea if they are still alive, but we've assured them that they will continue to be paid, and hope they are safe.

I have lots of friends living in Ukraine, and the thought that they may no longer be alive, makes me feel sick.

Odessa is a pretty city. Was on my bucket list forecast Europe trip.

 

[GreyLord]

There's a book floating around that explains their doctrine.

Foundations of Geopolitics by Aleksandr Dugin.

 

[Smackpixi]

You need to not post in this thread again. We don't have much tolerance for xenophobic rants like this.

For what it’s worth, that was an isolationist rant, not a xenophobic one. I feel like it’s an important difference. I can appreciate why you’d prefer neither here.

 

[Zardnaar]

For what it’s worth, that was an isolationist rant, not a xenophobic one. I feel like it’s an important difference. I can appreciate why you’d prefer neither here.

Well it seems Merkals approach failed hard along with concepts from the 90's.

We haven't made these regimes friendly through trade we've enabled them.

Oops. Probably the safest or most polite way I can phrase it.

Interesting read anyway. From last year.

Feeding the Bear: A Closer Look at Russian Army Logistics and the Fait Accompli - War on the Rocks

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