TSR NuTSR Sells Rebound 1E Core Rulebooks For $650 Each

Despite being embroiled in ongoing legal disputes with WotC regarding use of the TSR trademark (amongst other things), NuTSR has posted images of leather-bound compilations of AD&D 1E books they say are rebindings of old material, complete with the disputed logo. They're selling these books for $650 each.

The Deities & Demigods book (middle top in the image) has a typo on the front cover.

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About these books, NuTSR says "Look what just came in. Sorry, we didn't have these in for TSR CON. (in the beginning, WotC said similar to what people below are saying. We said they are rebound of old material. Long story short, WotC said ok no problem, we have it in writing)"

As rebindings, these would be existing books simply being resold. However, the covers with the disputed logo are new.

In early March WotC launched a lawsuit -- (PDF attachment of filing) -- naming TSR, TSR CEO Justin LaNasa personally, and the Dungeon Hobby Shop museum. WotC seeks a judgement that TSR hand over all domains, take down all websites, pay treble damages and costs, hand over all stock and proceeds related to the trademarks, and more.

 

[DLIMedia]

I mean, HOW much are those rebound books going to be worth after collectors see the poor spelling and grammar?

Don't go telling them that!

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I mean, HOW much are those rebound books going to be worth after collectors see the poor spelling and grammar?

NOTHING. Those books will be worth nothing. Original covers ripped off, and the new covers with grammatical errors on them? They'll be worth nothing to collectors.

Welll…maybe yes, maybe no.

IF those books survive this kerfuffle, it’s possible they could become collectibles in their own right, kind of like how certain counterfeited instruments, furniture, and other collectibles have. Now, such knockoffs are seldom anywhere near as valuable as the originals, but they can still command eye-watering prices.

Part of how this happens is the quality of the knockoffs. That’s not a factor here.

But they’re evidence of the existence of a controversy, and as such, might be collected by those who want to commemorate the event.

 

[Mournblade94]

Don't go telling them that!

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This fool doesn't understand collecting. If there was a Captain America comic written as Captain AERICA i'd jump at it... because it was a print run error. Making a Book Derpy because you as a publisher don't catch the error is meaningless, unless he had a bunch more of these to do another print run.

This guy continues to amaze me with his echo chamber stupidity. Sorry that last remark was typical of the Boomers I used to hear as a kid all the time. Throw out some thing people say without understanding the context.

infuriating actually that our older material now has this treatment.

 

[Cadence]

I was referring to UA, of which mine is in pretty much pristine shape despite 35-ish years of intermittent use.

I have three DDGs in varying conditions, one with the removed content, one without, and one I can't recall which.

So, off the main topic. Do you keep your books in anything to help preserve them, or just on the shelf? (The paper and cover in my DMG is starting to show its age, and we have an unfortunate number of silverfish in other parts of the house that periodically make it to the bookshelf...)

 

[Sacrosanct]

Welll…maybe yes, maybe no.

IF those books survive this kerfuffle, it’s possible they could become collectibles in their own right, kind of like how certain counterfeited instruments, furniture, and other collectibles have. Now, such knockoffs are seldom anywhere near as valuable as the originals, but they can still command eye-watering prices.

Part of how this happens is the quality of the knockoffs. That’s not a factor here.

But they’re evidence of the existence of a controversy, and as such, might be collected by those who want to commemorate the event.

Normally, perhaps, but I don't think so because they are re-bindings. Kind of how POD versions of Deities and Demigods have no collectible value. Anyone can do the same thing these guys did, and have them bound themselves. Complete with misspellings if they wanted.

 

[Umbran]

IF those books survive this kerfuffle, it’s possible they could become collectibles in their own right

Schadenfreude Collectibles.

 

[Jer]

Normally, perhaps, but I don't think so because they are re-bindings. Kind of how POD versions of Deities and Demigods have no collectible value. Anyone can do the same thing these guys did, and have them bound themselves. Complete with misspellings if they wanted.

Rebindings of the original books can still have collectible value, just not nearly the same as the original book in decent condition (or the original book with the original cover restored).

If it's a binding of a fresh laser printed copy that's not going to be worth anything. But if it's the original pages to the right collector looking for a deal it can be worth something. Especially if they can also get their hands on a book with damaged pages but an intact cover - that can be rebound into something closer to the original (which the unscrupulous collector will pass off as an undamaged original - the book market is like the art market and fraud is always a problem).

Needless to say though nobody should be paying $650 for something like that. You can get a copy with the cover intact for half that, and without an intact cover there's no way this one should be worth even that much.

 

[Morrus]

If it's a binding of a fresh laser printed copy that's not going to be worth anything.

Well that would be a massive copyright violation. I'm assuming these are original books rebound.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Needless to say though nobody should be paying $650 for something like that.

I don't know. If I rebound my books, complete with the outstanding coloring job I did on most of the pictures when I was a kid, that would be worth a fortune!

 

[LordEntrails]

Well that would be a massive copyright violation. I'm assuming these are original books rebound.

Oh, because they are so loath to infringe on IP laws? G