D&D 5E Kobolds are also from the Feywild now?

[LuisCarlos17f]

A kobold subrace can be feytouched, and other to be dragontouched.

In your tabletop the lore can be retconected, for example you can't play Dragonlance after reading the novels years ago, when the player know the secrets of those nPCs (If I say Fibzan now it wouldn't be a spoiler at all, would it be?).

In the past I have suggested to add to the canon the concept of alternate timelines, at least to allow creative freedom for fandom to create their own fan-fiction for Dragonlances, for example.

 

[Micah Sweet]

One thing I love about D&D is I can say nope and just ignore what WOTC says when it comes to lore.

I've pretty much had to ignore WotC's lore since 2009. I never knew how exhausting it was to pretend something doesn't exist until I saw 4th Ed's "reimagining" of D&D lore.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

I've pretty much had to ignore WotC's lore since 2009. I never knew how exhausting it was to pretend something doesn't exist until I saw 4th Ed's "reimagining" of D&D lore.

Oh! I find it super easy. As long as it is not entangled with the rules, it really isn't an issue. You literally don't even need to read the lore. I have always ignored most of the D&D lore. Sure, the rules imply certain amount of lore, and that you either have to incorporate or houserule, but I don't think that' the sort of thing we're really talking about here.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

And meanwhile, in Japan, Kobolds are just Gnolls or Werewolves.

Who is this Crawford, anyway? Cindy Crawford writes D&D now?


4E had lore? More like a mishmash of nonsense.
-"Hey let's lump everything from Demons to Yugoloths to Limbo to the Elemental planes into this soup we call Elemental Chaos, easier to remember."
-"Let's not have alignments, it is too complicated. Let's everyone be unaligned!... but yeah we still need villains. Let's keep Evil, then!"
-"These Thoon Mind Flayers look super interesting, dude, but what is Thoon?" - "Thoon is really everything you want it to be." - "So basically you were too lazy to think of a lore, right?"


I never understood the big change in art between the b&w and the color AD&D 2E Monster Manual art for Kobolds. And was not just that book, I think Monster Mythology also used this weird Goblin-like design.
However, consistently all the lore since 1E mentions they are scaled. So they have always been reptilian.


Yes they were...

Kobold (Monstrous Manual)

"Barely clearing 3 feet in height, kobolds have scaly hides that range from dark, rusty brown to a rusty black"
If they were mammals, they would have fur or just bare skin.
Also:
"For every 40 kobolds in a band there will be one leader and two bodyguards (AC 6; HD 1-1; hp 4 each; damage 1-6). In a lair there will be 5-20 (5d4) bodyguards, females equal to 50% of the males, young equal to 10% of the males and 30-300 (3d10x10) eggs. "
Unless they are some distant relative of the Platypus or the Echidna, Kobolds are unlikely to be mammals if they lay eggs.



Oh, 4E already beat you to that. Remember the silly looking Frost Titans made of ice and Hill Giants made if stone?

4e had great lore and cosmology, your ignorance of that doesn’t make it less so. Heck Critical Role still uses it.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

I've pretty much had to ignore WotC's lore since 2009. I never knew how exhausting it was to pretend something doesn't exist until I saw 4th Ed's "reimagining" of D&D lore.

Oh you mean the 4e improving of D&D lore.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

Oh! I find it super easy. As long as it is not entangled with the rules, it really isn't an issue. You literally don't even need to read the lore. I have always ignored most of the D&D lore. Sure, the rules imply certain amount of lore, and that you either have to incorporate or houserule, but I don't think that' the sort of thing we're really talking about here.

Yes I find it funny how some say it is so difficult to ignore the 4e or 5e lore when I’ve been ignoring D&D lore since 1e!

 

[Voadam]

I've pretty much had to ignore WotC's lore since 2009. I never knew how exhausting it was to pretend something doesn't exist until I saw 4th Ed's "reimagining" of D&D lore.

Remind me, are pre-2009 Orcs Chaotic or Neutral (0e), Lawful Evil (AD&D 1e, AD&D 2e), Chaotic (B/X, BECMI, RC) or Chaotic Evil (3.0, 3.5)?

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

In the past I have suggested to add to the canon the concept of alternate timelines, at least to allow creative freedom for fandom to create their own fan-fiction for Dragonlances, for example.

Fans can do that now.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Fans can do that now.

In fact, every time you're playing in the setting you're already doing that!

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

I've pretty much had to ignore WotC's lore since 2009. I never knew how exhausting it was to pretend something doesn't exist until I saw 4th Ed's "reimagining" of D&D lore.

You got off lucky, I’ve had to ignore since about 1984 when I started playing!