Spelljammer Spelljammer Confirmed (MAYBE, April Fools?)

[CleverNickName]

I just wanted to point out the our RL universe is not infinite. It as measurable limits: 93 billion light-years

Picture it: Sophomore year of engineering school, Physics III lecture, 2009.

Me: "Infinity doesn't exist."
My physics professor: "Explain please."
Me: "Infinity doesn't exist because we can't count to it."
My physics professor: "That...is the best answer I've ever heard to that question."

 

[doctorbadwolf]

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[doctorbadwolf]

Kind of perplexing, as - at least as I recall - Jeremy Crawford has a theology degree. Then again, my view is probably overkill: one of my players at one point exclaimed that a given NPC was shockingly philosophical for a murderous vampire.

The players thought it was hilarious, but it was kind of a "proudest DM moments" for me.

edit: I was half right, he was a straight up seminarian.

James Wyatt is a former minister, as well.

 

[dave2008]

The "first world" is a creation myth, the progenitor dragons of Eberron are a creation myth . . . in regards to Eberron, one could be truth, the other myth. Or both, or neither. Our real world has many creation myths, no reason why the worlds of D&D can't either. I don't feel the need for canon gymnastics to reconcile these two myths, simply presenting them as two different myths is fine.

Agree 100%, but some get really twisted up by it.

 

[ersatzphil]

James Wyatt is a former minister, as well.

I remember one of the designers of D&D - I can't for the life of me remember who - was asked how to get into writing for RPGs. Their response functionally boiled down to, "we mainly hire Humanities nerds".

 

[Parmandur]

Kind of perplexing, as - at least as I recall - Jeremy Crawford has a theology degree. Then again, my view is probably overkill: one of my players at one point exclaimed that a given NPC was shockingly philosophical for a murderous vampire.

The players thought it was hilarious, but it was kind of a "proudest DM moments" for me.

edit: I was half right, he was a straight up seminarian.

James Wyatt is a former minister, as well.

Actually, Wyatt's work in Fizban's has some very theologically and philosophically sophisticated work with the "First World" myth. For example, he explains how four sample worlds may relate to the "First World" in different ways (Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk, Dragonlance, and Eberron). For the Forgotten Realms, he writes (p. 6):

"The most comprehensive histories suggest Toril (the world of the Forgotten Realms setting) has not always known dragons, at least not in their current forms. Many scholars theorize that Toril's dragons evolved from some reptilian ancestor. And though it's possible to reqd these theories as contradicting the story of "Elegy of the First Wold," it's also possible to imagine that the newly formed Toril, fragmented from the First World, retained a hazy memory of the full ideal of dragon kind, which then took thousands of years to manifest. Certainly, the dragons of Toril cleave closely to the draconic archetypes described in the Monster Manual, and although Bahumut and Tiamay have sometimes been known by other names on that world (such as Xymor and Tchazzar), they have always had a part to play in the world's divine drama."

 

[ersatzphil]

Actually, Wyatt's work in Fizban's has some very theologically and philosophically sophisticated work with the "First World" myth.

Oh, 100% - Fizban's is the book I've liked the most of what they've put out recently. I hadn't really given time to examine why, but it's almost certainly for that very reason.

Wasn't Wyatt also lead on the Theros book? I'd warrant he had a huge hand in the piety system there.

 

[Parmandur]

Oh, 100% - Fizban's is the book I've liked the most of what they've put out recently. I hadn't really given time to examine why, but it's almost certainly for that very reason.

Wasn't Wyatt also lead on the Theros book? I'd warrant he had a huge hand in the piety system there.

He led Ravnica and Fizban's, and co-led Eberron with Perkins and Theros with Schneider.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Doo-doot-da-doo-do-doot-dooooo

I think I missed a doo in there, but y’all got the idea.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I remember one of the designers of D&D - I can't for the life of me remember who - was asked how to get into writing for RPGs. Their response functionally boiled down to, "we mainly hire Humanities nerds".

That tracks.

The convo about Fizban’s between you and @Parmandur has me pretty hyped to dig into the book more than I have so far.