5E: Converting Monsters from White Dwarf Magazine for Fifth Edition

Casimir Liber

Adventurer
Current description for tweaking.....

Also known as the demon elephant, the gurgotch is a being from the Demonic Abyss. It resembles an enormous African elephant with a matte coal-black hide, long grey curved tusks and large saucer-like white pupilless eyes. The tip of its tail is shaped like a trident, and its long trunk has a widened trumpet-like tip from which emanates the occasional puff of smoke.

Unholy Juggernauts. Initially created as destructive shock troops for abyssal armies in the face of celestial forces, gurgotch were left to their own devices after their masters were defeated. Some lost individuals still roam the Material Plane, though they are more commonly encountered on an infernal plane or summoned to be mounts by evil giant-sized masters or to cause mayhem.

(Originally created by Roger Musson and published in the Fiend Factory of White Dwarf 14 in 1979)
 

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Cleon

Legend
Also known as the demon elephant, the gurgotch is a being from the Demonic Abyss. It resembles an enormous African elephant with a matte coal-black hide, long grey curved tusks and large saucer-like white pupilless eyes. The tip of its tail is shaped like a trident, and its long trunk has a widened trumpet-like tip from which emanates the occasional puff of smoke.

Unholy Juggernauts. Initially created as destructive shock troops for abyssal armies in the face of celestial forces, gurgotch were left to their own devices after their masters were defeated. Some lost individuals still roam the Material Plane, though they are more commonly encountered on an infernal plane or summoned to be mounts by evil giant-sized masters or to cause mayhem.

Hmm, the original text says "In place of an ordinary tongue, the Gurgotch has a great trumpet-like funnel from which it exhales a noxious gas" as well as referring to its trunk, suggesting they might have both.

That said, I would be fine making the "trunk" and "funnel" one and the same, or maybe the "funnel" is inside the trunk and it "sticks out its tongue" to use it.

I wonder whether the Gurgotch uses its funnel-tongue to feed. Maybe the damage the gas does is actually it supping on the nervous systems of its victims?

There's no mention of their trunks being grey - the illustration shows them to be as dark or darker than the Demon Pachyderm's body. Maybe have them be ebony black rather than the ivory white of a true elephant?

Not sure about specifying they were created as shock troops, would prefer it to just say demonic armies use them for that purpose.

One idea I had was to say its face looks somewhat skull-like with its trunk/tongue protruding from where its nasal socket would be. However, that would be at odds with the description & picture which are pretty clear it just looks like a fiendish elephant.

Commonly known as the demon elephant, a gurgotch is a being from the lower planes. Matte black like coal and ashes, it resembles a huge African elephant with great saucer-like white eyes, glowing and pupilless, and long curved tusks the hue of ebony. Their tail ends in three barbs like a trident.

Unholy Invaders. Gurgotches are often part of Abyssal armies attacking other planes, serving as shock troops, living siege engines, or mounts for giant evil masters. If their demon allies are defeated they are often abandoned to roam the material plane causing mayhem.

[Some Title. Stuff about their funnel-tongue and its neurotoxic vapours.]​

Anything else?
 

Casimir Liber

Adventurer
That's about it I think

how about

"Occasional puffs of noxious vapour emanate from its funnel-shaped tongue within its trunk. The gurgotch derives sustenance from the vapour's interaction with living creatures."
 
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Cleon

Legend
That's about it I think

How about this for the tongue:

Trumpet of Paralysis. A gurgotch has a long tubular tongue whose tip can flare out like a trumpet-shaped flower. Grotesquely, the demon elephant can stick this tongue out of its trunk instead of its mouth and usually prefers to do so. The gurgotch can puff clouds of a mysterious gas from this trumpet. This vapor smells revolting and has the horrible property of numbing or paralyzing the spinal cord (or equivalent nervous system) of creatures who inhale it, which can completely immobilize them below the neck.
 A few eccentric sages believe the gurgotch's funnel-trumpet of a tongue is a feeding orifice, claiming the fiend literally inhales nerve energy from its victims' spines to sup on their strength and coordination. There are demonic entities who sustain themselves on far stranger fare than meat and plants.
 


Cleon

Legend
"eccentric" might be an overstretch...but sounds good

No problem. I'll just cut it out.

Upon reflection, I don't care much for "puff" or the wording of the paragraph after that word.

Will change it to "bellows" which has a nicer ring to it and I like the dual meaning. Does the grugotch puff out its sides or cheeks like a bellow or does it make a bellowing noise? It amuses me to imagine it doing both, trumpeting with its nose-funnel like a cartoon elephant.

So here's a revision:

Trumpeters of Paralysis. A gurgotch has a long tubular tongue whose tip can flare out like a trumpet-shaped flower. Grotesquely, the demon elephant can stick this tongue out of its trunk instead of its mouth and usually prefers to do so. The gurgotch can bellow forth clouds of a mysterious gas from this trumpet; this stinking vapor has the horrible property of numbing or paralyzing the spinal cord (or equivalent nervous system) of creatures who inhale it, often immobilizing the victims below the neck.
 A few sages believe the gurgotch's funnel-trumpet of a tongue is a feeding orifice, claiming the fiend literally inhales nerve energy from its victims' spines to sup on their strength and coordination. There are demonic entities who sustain themselves on far stranger fare than meat and plants.​

Better?
 



Casimir Liber

Adventurer
ok then. this is how it looks now - you feel happy with it?
 

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Cleon

Legend
Updating the Gurgotch.

ok then. this is how it looks now - you feel happy with it?

Well there's a couple of things.

The minor issue is credit at the end is missing a few words, the Enworld Version has:

(Originally created by Roger Musson; appeared in White Dwarf Magazine #14 (Aug/Sept 1979) as part of "The Fiend Factory", edited by Don Turnbull.)​

The important issue is you've increased it to Challenge 10 which throws off a bunch of the numbers by increasing the Proficiency Bonus to +4, a point higher than the +3 of the Enworld Gurgotch which is still at Challenge 7.

Making it CR 10 (well anything from CR 9 to 12) also affects the DCs and attack rolls from the higher PB.

I'm fine increasing the CR from 7 since the paralytic cloud attack is pretty nasty, but I thought we where boosting it to 8 so didn't adjust any of the numbers.

Have to check the DMG advice on paralysing attacks to figure out what Challenge is appropriate for the beastie, then I'll recalculate the bunch of numbers…
 

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