D&D 5E Speculation thread! Vecna? Giants UA?

[Urriak Uruk]

Depends on the Subreddit. The first comment on DNDLeaks was a "clearly for a Giant Fizban book."

OP is on my team tho!

 

[Minigiant]

I remember that was the 4E explanation for why Dark Sun doesn't have gods.

It would be cool it WOTC did a chart of pantheons and explain what happened if 2 of them fought in a world and one side loss.

World	Pantheon 1	Pantheon 2	Result
Nentir Vale	Dawn War	Primordial	Dawn War victory
Dark Sun	Dawn War	Primordials	Primordial Victory
Titanomachy	Olympians	Titans	Olympian Victory
Phlegra	Olympians	Titans	Titan Victory
Primeval	Dawn War	Giants/Jotun	Giant/Jotun Victory
Primordial	Norse	Giants/Jotun	Giant/Jotun Victory
New Midgard	Norse	Giants/Jotun	Norse (Pyrrhic) Victory
Old Midgard	Norse	Giants/Jotun	War not started

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Runes are only level 1 spells ATM.

That's the issue. You need new spell, weapon, and armor lists and rules to do a Prehistoric setting well. Things WOTC. Have been avoiding from in 5e.

We got a bunch of other Runes in Storm Kings Thunder.

 

[Minigiant]

We got a bunch of other Runes in Storm Kings Thunder.

Aren't all those runes powerful magic items?

We'd need a even more complex variant rules to make magic items into wizard and cleric class features

 

[Parmandur]

OP is on my team tho!

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Yeah, I think the entire speculation field has split along those lines as the most likely.

 

[JEB]

Yeah, I think the entire speculation field has split along those lines as the most likely.

And considering we've had previous UAs covering multiple future products, both could be correct!

 

[Quickleaf]

At first I thought the Vecna stuff might just be to promote the new season of Stranger Things and a new mini. But looking at the art, they've got what appears to be a mortal wielding both the Eye and Hand. Which, if it was just for the one Vecna miniature, there wouldn't be a need for. I suspect that we're going to see some sort of adventure path involving the Whispered One. The other option is some sort of guide sourcebook, maybe involving undead or perhaps artifacts.

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Which, looking at that art, it kinda looks like Lord Neverember. But then again, there are probably umpteen million NPCs out there meet the criteria of "long brown hair, beard, greying, wears crown/circlet."

I cannot think of anything that the Giants-related content might be. Every time I think, oh, maybe its a re-release and expansion of Storm Kings Thunder, or Dark Sun, or whatever, just as many reasons why it won't be that come to mind.

If that image is not just abstractly representing the Hand & Eye, and is intended to represent a specific NPC, that brings up the question of has Arkhan the Cruel lost the Hand?

In Critical Role, Joe Mangianello's PC Arkhan took the Hand. This later became canon in Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus: "...the dragonborn warrior researches ways to assert his will over the artifact known as the Hand of Vecna, so he can use its secrets to free the evil dragon queen Tiamat from the Nine Hells."

 

[bedir than]

If that image is not just abstractly representing the Hand & Eye, and is intended to represent a specific NPC, that brings up the question of has Arkhan the Cruel lost the Hand?

Which of the PHB, MM, or DMG did Arkhan have the Hand?

 

[Quickleaf]

Which of the PHB, MM, or DMG did Arkhan have the Hand?

I think what you mean to say is "If it's not in the core 3 books, it's not canon." Right? Why not just say that.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

In my view, the First World looks to be an attempt to collate, consolidate, and reincorporate this old lore into 5E to re-knit things like Planescape, Spelljammer, and a Multiverse.

This would be correct. Which means, if the did do a First World campaign setting (which I doubt very much) it would be a core rules setting, since it's raison d'etre is it's the place from which the core rules originate.

I would see a hypothetical First World setting as Nentir Vale 2.0:

1) Core rules
2) Contains everything from every world in the D&D multiverse
3) Dominated by dragons/dragonborn rather than humans
4) is in the process of an apocalypse
5) Points of Light. The PCs are trying to save things from the destruction to come.

And as such is unrelated to anything in the current UA.

Meanwhile, even ignoring the rules issues, there is no purpose in a dinosaurs and caveman setting, since there is nowhere in the D&D multiverse where dinosaurs (or mammoths, dire wolves etc) are extinct.