Obi-Wan Kenobi (spoilers)


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Davies

Legend
''Actually... (waves hand) No, I'm not the Jedi you're looking for. You don't need to see my identification.''

''Move along.''
Given how we've seen Kenobi struggling with the Force, I don't think the mind trick is within his grasp right now. On the other hand, the opposition doesn't know that.
 

I meant to ask about this in my last post, but got a bit sidetracked. lol

Anyway, we have another mention in episode 3 of Obi-wan remembering a baby brother. Other than the mention in the first prequel movie, and now here, is there anything else canon about this? Are we getting a set up for a younger Kenobi to show up in the Mandoverse? Some might not like that, but I think it would be cool if it did happen.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
I meant to ask about this in my last post, but got a bit sidetracked. lol

Anyway, we have another mention in episode 3 of Obi-wan remembering a baby brother. Other than the mention in the first prequel movie, and now here, is there anything else canon about this? Are we getting a set up for a younger Kenobi to show up in the Mandoverse? Some might not like that, but I think it would be cool if it did happen.
Its messy, its the first mention in live action canon, however in the draft script for Return of the Jedi, Obi-wan has a brother named Owen and he lives on Tattooine (make of that what you will)
 
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pukunui

Legend
Some random thoughts:

1) Why is Reva the only Inquisitor referred to by name? (Yes, the Second Sister has a name, but the other inquisitors don't use it. And she's been dead for five years already by the time of this show.)

2) Is there any meaning to the numbering system the inquisitors use? I would've assumed it was either a hierarchy thing or a recruitment order thing, but neither of those really make sense, since Reva is the Third Sister, yet she is also considered the "least" among them and jockeys for position with the Seventh Brother. Is the numbering just random?


Vader just killing people like Voorhees. Seemed out of character. to me he always came off as a corrupted knight not some sadistic killer. His reaction to Reva doing her own thing also seems out of character other than the dont fail me
Vader is walking along and then he stops suddenly, looks in Obi-Wan's direction, and then starts killing people. I figured that the sudden stop is when he first sensed Obi-Wan's presence, and so he started torturing/killing the villagers in order to draw Obi-Wan out.

Reva/Vader all get to the planet almost right away. The long tunnel that the kid is jumping around and yet everyone else is in and out so fast
Travel times in Star Wars have always been a bit vague. Sometimes it takes a while, other times it's super quick. Speed of plot and all that.

i swear i heard a female stormtrooper at the checkpoint?
We did as well!

I loved episode 3, but I was thinking the same thing . . . how did Tala (yes, she introduced herself to Obi-Wan) get past Reva? How did Reva get ahead of Leia?
I assumed she guessed that the tunnel would lead to the spaceport and went around, thus when Tala returned to the building, Reva was no longer there.

As for Vader, maybe he still has one weakness/fear and that is of fire, because of his near death in fire and lava. Sure, he started a small fire, but then Tala shot whatever that was and made it a larger and out-of-control fire, so perhaps Vader was having flashbacks to his near death and just did not act to stop the droid because of that.
Good thinking. I am still thinking that he may still feel just a little bit for his old friend and mentor that caused him to hesitate as well.

As for the actor age thing, I am just pretending that Bail is not actually the same age as Jimmy Smits, as Smits definitely aged more than the rest of the cast. I am just glad they did not go with a different actor of a more accurate age or use de-aging CGI on him.

Edit: also on the age thing, Smits is 66, so maybe 65 when this was filmed. Bail was 67 when he died, so that makes him 57 or 58 in this show. I am now a little surprised they did not do a bit more with makeup and hair dye and stuff to make Smits look more the age of Bail.
Yeah, the only one whose age was even a little bit of an issue for me was Smits, since he looks older here than he did in Rogue One, which takes place after. (A bit like how Legolas looks older in the Hobbit movies even though they take place before LotR.)
 


A little bit of a mixed bag this week. I really loved most of it. Basically any Obi-Wan and Leia scene works for me, the friendly, imperial-collaborating bus driver alien was a fun energy, I generally find any extended conversations with stormtroopers interesting, Darth Vader choking random townspeople is one of those sequences that would have gone straight into the Star Wars movie 12 year-old me would have written, and yeah, we got Vader. QED a good episode. I'm really glad they made this series.

A few things I didn't like:

Obi-Wan instantly giving up on their contact picking them up was clearly just a plot convenience decision. It didn't really make sense and felt awkward. I can forgive the decision for setting up the "bus ride" sequence which I really liked, but it was weak writing, and took me out of the story. Come on show, you're better than that.

Obi-Wan's escape this week via lumbering loader droid because of a moderately large fire everyone could have easily run around (or perhaps force lept over, but that would look awkward with Vader) and caught up with him was an unfortunate note to end on. If they had had the same set up in a confined space it would have made sense, but it just seemed like a poorly staged action sequence to me. While I can head canon it (and hell, maybe they'll come right out and say) that Vader is toying with him, having it be the end of the episode is just made it end on weird note. The fire torture leading up to it worked, Vader lit by flames is a great image to end on, but the escape just didn't really make sense, and whereas a show like this could get me to ignore that in the middle of an episode by immediately distracting me with something else really cool, endings should really be harder to pick apart.

I really think Reva needed more of a distinct personality if they are going to focus on her so much. Most featured one-scene characters on this show are more distinct and memorable than her. Sometimes a character this bland can work for a protagonist as an audience insert/everyman, but as a villain, and in a series full of scene-chewing, cackling villains she's really not doing anything for me. I can imagine here being just a cold, nondescript evil could work as some sort of deconstruction of and comment on Star Wars villainy. Having her kill the grand inquisitor, a sith-central-casting character with little gravitas and more Palpatine-than-Palpatine diction, actually works well for that sort of subversion of typical Star Wars villain trope angle. But if that sort of angle was going to work at all (I don't think it's likely it could in any case) it would have had to be on a series where the quiet, reserved, ordinary, bland villain was actually the main villain. That all went out the window once Vader showed up. Now we have a series with the most iconic and memorable of Star Wars villains and this additional boring woman who just adds nothing but also exists and has a red lightsaber. That doesn't work. I hope they give her a personality soon. Or fewer scenes.
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
2) Is there any meaning to the numbering system the inquisitors use? I would've assumed it was either a hierarchy thing or a recruitment order thing, but neither of those really make sense, since Reva is the Third Sister, yet she is also considered the "least" among them and jockeys for position with the Seventh Brother. Is the numbering just random?
I've taken it to mean the order in which they were found. Here's a girl, let's call her First Sister. There's another, she can be Second Sister. And so on. When you're found, though, doesn't have any bearing on your ability and how quickly you rise through the ranks.

I also enjoyed seeing Obi Wan and Leia land on Planet Southern California and trek through the Joshua Tree laden deserts that are almost my back yard. Very familiar territory that.
 

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