D&D General What is a Ranger? A miserable pile of secrets! (+)

What is a Ranger? (pick up to 3)

  • Archery! Rangers and Bows. They just make sense.

    Votes: 48 40.0%
  • Dual wielding! Just like Drizzt taught me!

    Votes: 8 6.7%
  • Nature! But none of that magic crap, more like, "hey, that's poison oak, don't touch that"

    Votes: 67 55.8%
  • Magic! Like a mini-druid. Maybe poultices. Plants and animals are friends! With magic!

    Votes: 27 22.5%
  • Animal companions! Just like Drizzt taught me!

    Votes: 21 17.5%
  • DPS! Damage on damage on damage. Doesn't matter how, just keep magic out of it! They're martial!

    Votes: 10 8.3%
  • Favored foes! The "X killed my family" trope is due for a comeback! You'll see! You'll all see!

    Votes: 13 10.8%
  • Stealth! Stalking through the woods, unseen, unheard, unsmelt. This is the way.

    Votes: 58 48.3%
  • Aragorn! Just being Aragorn. That's all it ever was.

    Votes: 39 32.5%
  • Rogues! Just replace buildings with trees

    Votes: 8 6.7%
  • Monster Hunting! Toss a coin to your Drizzt!

    Votes: 29 24.2%
  • Environmental Adaptation! A Drizzt of all seasons!

    Votes: 10 8.3%
  • Magical Weapons Combat! Look I don't even know at this point

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Katniss! Dump Strider in the past! The future is catching fire and mocking jays!

    Votes: 2 1.7%


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James Gasik

We don't talk about Pun-Pun
Supporter
Augh... but pets in DnD ALWAYS suck >< do we HAVE to include them?

Yes.

The secret is 1) not making them super killable, and 2) letting the action economy work with them, not against them.
But then you get the 3.5 Druid problem. Which I didn't think was a problem at all, until I saw the Fleshraker Dinosaur/Venomfire combo in action....but even without it, a strong case could be made for the starter Wolf to be nearly as good as another player character, and certainly way better than a Leadership cohort.
 


Yaarel

He Mage
For me, the "Ranger" is more like an army ranger or navy seal.

It is the "tip of the spear" covert ops.

It combines Stealth, Intelligence, mobility and crazy tough Constitution.
 

Vaalingrade

Legend
But then you get the 3.5 Druid problem. Which I didn't think was a problem at all, until I saw the Fleshraker Dinosaur/Venomfire combo in action....but even without it, a strong case could be made for the starter Wolf to be nearly as good as another player character, and certainly way better than a Leadership cohort.
Well you would o course have to make the class that shall not be named actually good, and standardize companions from all sources.

Also, not make animal companions literal animals from the MM for no good reason. They can be stat blocks; mostly just the player's primary attack, AC and saves, modified by the type of creature with some animals abilities.
 

Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
Sure. The only reason why they couldn't is if they were designed not to.

It's usually not a design problem but an allowance problem.

If a fey circle traps a party in an illusion, will the DM let the ranger roll Intelligence/Nature/Wisdom/Survival to break the party free or do he need to cast dispel magic? How does a ranger track a creature with pass without trace on itself or has no natural footsteps like a ghost or floating being?

"What is a Ranger" should be a question for all levels of play. However many examples are purely low level D&D-wise.
 



Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
It's usually not a design problem but an allowance problem.

If a fey circle traps a party in an illusion, will the DM let the ranger roll Intelligence/Nature/Wisdom/Survival to break the party free or do he need to cast dispel magic?
If they have a class feature that allows them to do that? i would certainly hope so.
How does a ranger track a creature with pass without trace on itself or has no natural footsteps like a ghost or floating being?
How does the rogue know the location of any hidden or invisible creature within 10 feet of them? How does the fighter ignore failed saving throws? How is the monk immune to aging? The answer is, they have class features that say so.
"What is a Ranger" should be a question for all levels of play. However many examples are purely low level D&D-wise.
I simply don’t agree that high level play needs to mean high magic. Look at the other non-casting classes. They do just fine at high levels. A non-casting ranger could too.
 


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