DND_Reborn
The High Aldwin
I've always seen Legolas's features (Elven eyes, walking on snow) more as "elf features" than ranger of any sort. I would definitely see him as a fighter, perhaps with a bit of rogue thrown in (for expertise).
Yes, Legolas is that guy who has Expertise in Acrobatics and is constantly asking the DM "can I make an Acrobatics check?".I've always seen Legolas's features (Elven eyes, walking on snow) more as "elf features" than ranger of any sort. I would definitely see him as a fighter, perhaps with a bit of rogue thrown in (for expertise).
So characters just have to show off!Yes, Legolas is that guy who has Expertise in Acrobatics and is constantly asking the DM "can I make an Acrobatics check?".
I would agree - Legolas is an archer. Period. What ranger-y things does he do? He has some of Tolkien's "elves are human but better" qualities, but other than that I just don't see it.
Y'all just convinced me that LotR used race as class for Legolas and Gimli.I've always seen Legolas's features (Elven eyes, walking on snow) more as "elf features" than ranger of any sort. I would definitely see him as a fighter, perhaps with a bit of rogue thrown in (for expertise).
Legolas is an half elf Archery fighter with all the bow feats and Elven Accuracy.What?
What abilities would a desert ranger or arctic ranger have that is different than a forest ranger? At level 5? level 10? level 15?Yeah, it’s the second sentence where you lose me.
I’m well aware of your stance on the necessity of high magic in D&D, and I simply disagree. There’s not much point in you and I discussing rangers or halflings.What abilities would a desert ranger or arctic ranger have that is different than a forest ranger? At level 5? level 10? level 15?
Again, a lot of people's ideas of a ranger is based of characters in low level settings and low magic settings. D&D get to higher magic or higher level that American folktales, YA fiction or LOTR.
Most examples of rangers are not past level 5.
Except Legolas apparently lacks the Intelligence to cast Magic User spells. But Gimli? Man, he's the Ur-Dwarf. The Dwarfiest Dwarf that ever Dwarfed. He doesn't need a class. Every blank spot on his character sheet, just put "Dwarf".Y'all just convinced me that LotR used race as class for Legolas and Gimli.