D&D 5E Being strong and skilled is a magic of its own or, how I learned to stop worrying and love anime fightin' magic

[Scribe]

can someone link me to this rules of nature?

 

[payn]

can someone link me to this rules of nature?

Do we have to?

 

[Maxperson]

because what makes a 14 year old girl any less viable as a 1st level fighter? we didn't suggest she was going to fight epic threats... just that she was exceptional... he then jumped to "well if she can't do it why can a 20th level fighter?:

I never said or implied that. From the get go I've said that I have no problem with fighters being supernaturally proficient with their weapons and doing awesome stuff. There's just no purely mundane way to do a lot of what you guys want to happen.

 

[Haplo781]

And thats the thing.

The gulf between "Fighter with Special Moves and out of Combat functionality" and "RULES OF NATURE" is...vast.

RULES OF NATURE is a special move.

One you don't have to take.

How many times do I need to explain this?

Does the existence of an option offend you so much that you must slap it out of everyone else's hands?

 

[Maxperson]

"My fighter can parry Orcus, grab his weapon, swing him like a rag doll, then I run up his arm, slashing him to ribbons before I decapitate him"?

10%

If your fighter was level 40 or 50, I'd totally let him do that to Orcus. Orcus, though, is level 30ish(CR 26) and someone 10 levels or more lower than Orcus isn't going to be capable of making him look that inept.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

thank you for this... I would not be "I don't want this in my D*D" mad, but if voting this would be a thumbs down for me and the flavor of this would get somewhat nerfed in one of my games unless it was a epic (scope not level) gonzo game... but that would be a one off campaing.

 

[Scribe]

Does the existence of an option offend you so much that you must slap it out of everyone else's hands?

In this case? Yes.

A Fighter, regardless of level, has no place in that action sequence.

Now, a Fighter with gear provided by a level 20 Artificer? Blessed by a level 20 Cleric? Enhanced by a level 20 Wizard? Inspired by a level 20 Bard?

Yeah, sure, maybe?

No single character should be able to slap around an 'end game' level threat which, to me, Orcus should be.

 

[Haplo781]

In this case? Yes.

A Fighter, regardless of level, has no place in that action sequence.

Now, a Fighter with gear provided by a level 20 Artificer? Blessed by a level 20 Cleric? Enhanced by a level 20 Wizard? Inspired by a level 20 Bard?

Yeah, sure, maybe?

No single character should be able to slap around an 'end game' level threat which, to me, Orcus should be.

"That guy ordered his steak medium rare! The one true way is well done!"

Just order your goddamn food and leave the other tables alone.

 

[Scribe]

"That guy ordered his steak medium rare! The one true way is well done!"

Just order your goddamn food and leave the other tables alone.

Thats not at what what I'm saying, but what you linked, is not just 'some special move'. Its outside the realm of what makes sense for...anything I've read, seen, participated in, for D&D at all.

Its the 'game is over' level threats and abilities where world's and campaigns end.

Which is fine, but its not the Fighter 95% of the population is looking for.

A (whole bunch) of Special Attacks, and out of Combat utility? No problem, and while your at it, give me the proper Psion, and Gish.

Some anime/cyberpunk nonsense? Nah.

(And BTW, I'll take the Steak Rare, as the Lord intended.)

 

[DND_Reborn]

Counterpoint:

I have no clue what this even is....