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darjr

I crit!
Yeah, but today the PHB is #17 of all books on Amazon. Sales of the flagship product are still remarkable, even eight years after publication.

Hard to say new leadership is necessary in the face of commercial success.
yea, and more so, it hit top ten, #8 and maybe higher.

If it was an edition launch today it would have been one of the top three, or two, edition launches of all time. It would have gone down in the history books and been discussed here in endless threads with theories about why and how.

Note the PHB has been in the top ten since release several times. Maybe six or seven or more. A few of those times years after it was released and again this Friday (and Thursday) Nov 25th 2022, nearly ten years after the playtest.
 

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MoonSong

Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
Note the PHB has been in the top ten since release several times. Maybe six or seven or more. A few of those times years after it was released and again this Friday (and Thursday) Nov 25th 2022, nearly ten years after the playtest.
I'm sure Black Friday has nothing to do with it n_n.
 



darjr

I crit!
I'm sure Black Friday has nothing to do with it n_n.
Here is the graph from a few years ago when Camel Camel Camel still gave us rank history.

I found this with a quick search:
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I am kind of curious what happened in March 2016 that stabilized the position. Were the other dips because it went out of print, maybe?

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Lanefan

Victoria Rules
It seems this got lost or ignored in the shuffle.

The short answer, it's a disaster. A longer tale, it is a perfect storm of PR disaster, simultaneous pissing of of audiences with mutually contradicting goals, too much product, dead game formats, quality issues and WotC not managing a single week without making yet another colossal mistake.

At the heart of the issue is what I call the Trek/Lego effect. A long period of insufficient supply to meet expanding demand followed by another long period of too much supply for a contracting demand. During the early stages of the pandemic, there were shortages of a lot of product, including the well liked Time Spiral and Jumpstart. Now there is so much product of so many lines that stores are plainly not ordering more than what they are strictly contractually obligated to buy. At the same time, there is lots and lots of delays of product, particularly of the print on demand stuff that is sold direct to consumer.

Then there is a part of the audience for whom the game is too expensive and another which thinks it isn't expensive enough. The avalanche of product somehow manages to make both unhappy.

Also, they took the aforementioned Jumpstart and slapped the name on random product that had none of the quality of it. Last week the last Jumpstart released to nobody's hype. And in two weeks they will release yet another one...

On dead formats, Legacy and Vintage are dead because the cards are too expensive. Modern is getting there thanks to newly invented direct-to-modern sets that include cards powercreeping existing stuff at super high rarities (like the infamous Ragavan which quickly rose to staple status as a mythic card). Standard is so dead it isn't even funny. The loss of sanctioned tournaments, the increase in the amount and frequency of standard products, the needless segmentation of packs, and the insertion of meant for commander and meant for modern cards mean playing standard is a fools-errand.

And on the other hand, the last month has been a PR disaster after another. Wizards sold remote tickets to their anniversary convention which included access to conferences by MaRo and Richard Garfield, just to not give enough time to buyers to preregister for these. Then in the actual convention they did such a poor job organizing it that people found themselves registered on overlapping events (and each event costed money) Then they restricted table space to only people who paid for the privilege. Then at the end they opened play for everybody pissing of those who paid.

They prepared an advent calendar to celebrate the anniversary, but instead of the usual direct-to consumer which is print to demand and buyers can choose to have as foil or non-foil, they opted for a limited run in which the foil or not foil is completely random. Since they didn't bother to inform the public of this, it sold out in minutes. It seems buyers are preparing a class action lawsuit about the whole fiasco.

And speaking of direct-to-consumer, the secret lair products they have been selling take ages to arrive, and when they arrive the cards come damaged, or missing, or misprinted.
But the thing that takes the cake is their 30th anniversary set. Which is everything wrong in spades. The product is not for sale yet, but some of it is in the wild already -attendants to the convention received some packs. It is going to cost $999 for a box with four packs. $999 for sixty random cards. And all of these cards are proxies since they aren't tournament legal and have a different backing. Due to the cost of the packs, we are talking $16 dollar proxies of cards that on average cost pennies. But because some of the cards in the set are reprints of reserve list cards, that somehow justifies the high cost, and people who invested their life savings on reserve list cards aren't happy. Many people have been selling out their collections in response.

Since this product is so toxic for the fan base, Wizards hasn't given product to the usual reviewers, but instead has reached out to celebrities who can easily afford it. (This has made them come of as tone deaf) And they experimented with giving packs to a youtube yugioh reviewer who was blindsided by them, they didn't tell him these were $250 packs and he got a lot of hate online. The review was removed within 24 hours and the yugituber posted a video apologizing for it.

They have also gone hard sending C&Ds to prominent proxy and custom artists, as well as the most popular site for creating your own proxies and custom cards. (The guy running the site is basically a kid that hasn't even finished college)

The whole controversy even reached Bank of America that sent a memo downgrading their appraisal of Hasbro stock. It basically summed up as "They are running the value of their brand into the ground, and they are pushing too much product". So far the only response WotC has given to the whole debacle is basically a "we are keeping course, if you don't want it, don't buy it".

There is also a lot of non-troversy over they discontinuing cards with scantly clad women, the inclusion of mechanically unique Transfomer-themed cards in a standard set, and many other stuff, but from my perspective that is a bunch of dudebros further disturbing the waters for personal gain.

But yeah, the last month has been bad for WotC on the Magic front.
Thanks for the write-up...and if that's the Readers' Digest version I hate to think how bad it gets if one goes into detail :)

Their original mistake IMO was creating the reserve list in the first place - great for those who got in early and-or had loads of money to invest as collectors, but it sure sucked for everyone else.
 


MoonSong

Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
Their original mistake IMO was creating the reserve list in the first place - great for those who got in early and-or had loads of money to invest as collectors, but it sure sucked for everyone else.
I understand they were in a bad spot and needed something drastic. But they would have saved themselves a lot of headache if the had said "for ten years" instead of "never"
 

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
It seems what people want is 90s dnd: copious splatbooks each supporting increasingly niche setting product lines eventually leading to the collapse of the company that made the game.
That'd be great, yeah. My favorite time in D&D's history for content.

And if you recall, the game did get saved.
 

Scribe

Legend
I understand they were in a bad spot and needed something drastic. But they would have saved themselves a lot of headache if the had said "for ten years" instead of "never"

Thing is, the reserve list probably saved the game at the time, and didnt harm it after. The only format the game is played competitively at all (by anyone not a high roller) is Legacy.

The damage has all be done in recent (5 years?) history.
 

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