Battlezoo Shares The OGL v1.1

Battlezoo, the YouTube channel which shared the initial leak of the new Open Game License, has shared the PDF of the OGL v1.1 draft which is currently circulating. This draft is, presumably, the same document obtained by Gizmodo last week. It's not currently known if this is the final version of the license.

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[mangamuscle]

Respectfully disagree. If WoTC backtracked, apologized and rolled out new leadership and One D&D is more popular than even 5E I think a lot of 3PP, even ones who have sworn to never support WoTC, would come back.

In my personal opinion, at this point in time that is less likely than vladimir putin stepping down from his position and letting himself be charged with crimes of war.
Now, hit them back hard and long enough and they might just do that, but our posting in social media wont make them even flinch, they will just go "if they don't have 1.0 let them eat 1.1"

 

[JDragon]

I completely understand why someone who makes their living as a 3PP would be upset (angry even, if that's how they roll). And those of us who feel like we're "friends" with publishers like Morrus (even if only because we hang out here) can reasonably "defend" our friends.

But what I've seen goes quite a bit beyond all that. People who have never bought a 3PP are OUTRAGED. At least, that's how it appears.

I'm sure that most D&D fans haven't even heard about it yet.

I think it ties back to the fact that more people care about the actions that are taken by companies where they spend their money now than they were in the past. Which is in a big part the rise of the internet and social media, people know a whole lot more about the companies they are getting stuff from.

I don't disagree that a good number do not know yet, but when the companies they have been getting stuff from or using their VTT's start shutting there doors it will become very well known very quickly.

 

[jerryrice4949]

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Interesting but I wonder if the lockdown is while they work on adjustments or while they just wait this out. Makes it sound like this is a surprise which I just cannot imagine it is to anyone who knows anything.

 

[jerryrice4949]

In my personal opinion, at this point in time that is less likely than vladimir putin stepping down from his position and letting himself be charged with crimes of war.
Now, hit them back hard and long enough and they might just do that, but our posting in social media wont make them even flinch, they will just go "if they don't have 1.0 let them eat 1.1"

Yeah probably true. Just saying a lot of people say never but when money and opportunity are involved things change.

 

[EthanSental]

I’m kind of torn on the subject, with my main backing being the Level up products and a few other kickstarters, i can see it from the 3pps view but also from WoTC as fan supported content grew from pass this creator stuff around and the dmsguild creator thing a few years back to people and other companies making a living off it, which I don’t think was the intent but WoTC has allowed 3pp to grow along with the fan base for the last 20 years….hard to change that mental ship now. I hope we can find a common ground and continue to grow the hobby as we move forward.

 

[jerryrice4949]

They are really killing their movie. All the comments under their Facebook post with the movie trailer are anti-WoTC and pro open D&D. Gross incompetence to try this a couple months prior for the movie.

 

[Malmuria]

But again, didn't Paizo essentially use D&D's ruleset to build D&D's biggest competition? Is that really "fair" to D&D? Is it unreasonable for D&D's owners to have a problem with that?

Depends what you mean by "dnd's ruleset." What part of the mechanics are their IP? If one creates a game with six stats, hp, hit die, and saving throws, is that infringing on wotc's IP? From what I can tell, there is a good case to be made that that is not the case. People used the OGL to maximally protect themselves and to allow other creators to make things for their system. Pathfinder2e uses the OGL, for example, not because the game is so similar to 5e, but because it wanted to offer third party creators a license to make pathfinder 2e compatible products. Now, wotc is claiming that anyone selling products using ogl 1.0 must either convert to 1.1 or stop publishing. They may or may not be legally correct, but they have a lot of money to pay for lawyers and a drawn-out legal battle. So I think people are upset with them because they are using their money and power to bully small games companies out of the market entirely.

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[ersatzphil]

They are really killing their movie. All the comments under their Facebook post with the movie trailer are anti-WoTC and pro open D&D. Gross incompetence to try this a couple months prior for the movie.

That's what I'm marveling at. I mean, I suppose Elon Musk has made "destroying huge amounts of shareholder value" hip, but still.

 

[jerryrice4949]

That's what I'm marveling at. I mean, I suppose Elon Musk has made "destroying huge amounts of shareholder value" hip, but still.

Yeah at a time when they want to promote the heck out of the movie they are radio silent and every post they make about the movie on Facebook and Twitter is all negative comments.

 

[Retreater]

So explain this to me in the only terms I can understand...
How many Death Save failures is Wizards at right now?