OGL OGL-Gate & Mainstream Media: The Guardian Weighs In

Russ Morrissey

Russ Morrissey



HaroldTheHobbit

Adventurer
That's a weird, badly-researched, and unhelpful article that addresses almost none of the genuine issues. And talking up defunct piracy sites as a demonstration of how innovative D&D fans are to pursue their hobby is ... certainly an interesting journalistic line to take.
The point imho is not the journalistic quality, but that the debacle is flagged and commented in mainstream media.
 


ilgatto

How inconvenient


SAVeira

Adventurer
I believe that it is more important to see what kind of follow up the mainstream media does. An one off story will not really move the needle in the end. Looking to see journalists press Hasbro on why they thought this was good idea and how did they not realize that would harm their brand/bottomline.

There is a story here of basic mismanagement, which cost a number of suits, their jobs at Hasbro/WotC.
 


Sidhanei

Explorer
Where have you been the last 5+ years! D&D has pretty regularly been in the mainstream meeting since shortly after 5e took off.
I don't know about 'shortly'. 5e was released in mid 2014, and I remember it being very quiet. There wasn't a great deal of content published (it didn't release with the OGL, which came later in 2016 with the DMsGuild launch), as it was more of a "back to basics" vibe.

Anyways, I agree that is a strange approach to researching the article for it the Guardian chose. I have noticed, though, that the more mainstream publications are leaning nicer to Hasbro/WotC's position compared to industry-related publications.
 

SAVeira

Adventurer
Anyways, I agree that is a strange approach to researching the article for it the Guardian chose. I have noticed, though, that the more mainstream publications are leaning nicer to Hasbro/WotC's position compared to industry-related publications.
Think that is approach most publications that are not industry-related going take. From what I have heard from non-gamers, most understand/back Hasbro "taking back their right" or "defencing their IP".
 

Bolares

Hero
Looks like Hasbro stock is not doing so well today....

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(Ignore all the portuguese, I'm to lazy to open google in english)
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Well, at least D&D is making it into the mainstream media these days. Only took them 50 years...
:whistle:
 

MarkB

Legend
That's a weird, badly-researched, and unhelpful article that addresses almost none of the genuine issues. And talking up defunct piracy sites as a demonstration of how innovative D&D fans are to pursue their hobby is ... certainly an interesting journalistic line to take.
Yeah, if you took the article at face value, you might have the impression that WotC are trying to suppress individual DMs' homebrew settings rather than third-party publishers.
 

Well, I think this is quickly reaching the point where someone on the executive level has to take the blame and step down to save the brand. If that happens, and then the create an OGL 1.0b quickly and turn it over to a foundation like Paizo is planning to do, and making sure WotC nor any other company can never again touch that OGL, things might turn around. But I fear that the main damage has happened: WotC lost one of its greater competitive advantages by appearing to revoke OGL 1.0a.
 


Yeah, if you took the article at face value, you might have the impression that WotC are trying to suppress individual DMs' homebrew settings rather than third-party publishers.
They asked WotC to comment, WotC didn't comment, it's a terrible article but if you're a company and you're not commenting to the goddamn Guardian, pretty much the only UK newspaper with a real worldwide audience at this point (and one of the few newspapers in the world with one), you get what's coming to you lol.

Also speaks to the level of panic/confusion at WotC/Hasbro that they didn't comment.
 

Nebulous

Legend
They asked WotC to comment, WotC didn't comment, it's a terrible article but if you're a company and you're not commenting to the goddamn Guardian, pretty much the only UK newspaper with a real worldwide audience at this point (and one of the few newspapers in the world with one), you get what's coming to you lol.

Also speaks to the level of panic/confusion at WotC/Hasbro that they didn't comment.
I can't imagine what is going through the heads of Hasbro corporate right now. They want to save face AND save money and put this debacle behind them, but are probably second guessing every decision they make at this point because it seems to be the wrong ones.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
They asked WotC to comment, WotC didn't comment, it's a terrible article but if you're a company and you're not commenting to the goddamn Guardian, pretty much the only UK newspaper with a real worldwide audience at this point (and one of the few newspapers in the world with one), you get what's coming to you lol.

Also speaks to the level of panic/confusion at WotC/Hasbro that they didn't comment.
Unfortunately, you forget the Daily Mail, which is (sadly) much more popular both domestically and worldwide.
 


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