Picard Season 3

[MarkB]

One thing I just thought about from a few episodes ago

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When Seven spots out Tuvoc based on the fact that "no Vulcan would ever go to Kholinar"..... man that was a pretty crappy spy job there by the changelings. I mean rule number 1 of spycraft is know your cover. The idea that the changeling didn't know some personal details between Seven and Tuvoc, sure. But the fact that he was masquerading as a race that has specific taboos or wide ranging beliefs....yeah you got to know that stuff.

It is, presumably, at least somewhat obscure, based only upon the fact that Seven chose it as a test question.

 

[Bayushi_seikuro]

It is, presumably, at least somewhat obscure, based only upon the fact that Seven chose it as a test question.

As an outsider, I thought it was a test about current events, not a historical item. Kind of similiar to the trope in movies of 'Oh, we've got to hurry because this passcode changes in 7 minutes', the question was based on something that may not have made it out unless you were directly effected.

 

[Maxperson]

I have a book called Q&A that basically explain why Q was interested in Picard basically he didn't want the universe to end, but feared The Borg would find Them (the ones with the power to erase the universe).

Q & A

Q & A was the second of three TNG relaunch novels released in 2007 as part of TNG's 20th Anniversary and featured Q. Nearly two decades ago, Jean-Luc Picard took command of the U.S.S. Enterprise™ NCC-1701-D. The captain knew it was an honor without equal. His new command bore the name of...

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Why wouldn't the Q just erase the Borg, then?

 

[Maxperson]

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I really disliked Jack going rogue for the Borg on a dime. If they played it as the Borgness won out after the door was opened that would be one thing, but they went more for "I don't want to go to a mental institution for my obvious mental problems that I acknowledge I need help with, so I will go way out of my way to join up with the Borg." Having an irrational character move to move the plot along I can accept, but given that it needlessly expedites a colossal Star Fleet bloodbath it makes it really hard to redeem the character, which means they probably have to kill him off, which is a shame. I liked Jack.

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I think that he's the key that they will use to defeat the Borg and restore everyone. Perhaps he will even gain control of the collective and they will become a Federation ally/member.

 

[Morrus]

While I knew it was going to be the Borg, I was kinda hoping it wasn't. They featured in s1 and s2, and they're kinda like the Daleks now--overused.

Seeing the D definitely worked. I'm a sucker for nostalgia.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Well, episode 9 is a mixed bag. I'll spoiler my comments beyond that because I'm writing a few hours after it premiered and it's the most spoliery episode of the season.

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I really disliked Jack going rogue for the Borg on a dime. If they played it as the Borgness won out after the door was opened that would be one thing, but they went more for "I don't want to go to a mental institution for my obvious mental problems that I acknowledge I need help with, so I will go way out of my way to join up with the Borg." Having an irrational character move to move the plot along I can accept, but given that it needlessly expedites a colossal Star Fleet bloodbath it makes it really hard to redeem the character, which means they probably have to kill him off, which is a shame. I liked Jack.

That's not what happened though. He even explained!

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He said to Picard - I'm going to go find the Borg, get on board, and show themexactly who I am - in a threatening tone implying he was going to smash the Borg up. And I think even having failed to kill the Borg queen, he's probably still planning that.

 

[Benjamin Olson]

While I knew it was going to be the Borg, I was kinda hoping it wasn't. They featured in s1 and s2, and they're kinda like the Daleks now--overused.

Seeing the D definitely worked. I'm a sucker for nostalgia.

While I wish it wasn't the Borg again, as an abrupt episode 9 reveal I think anything else would have just been more disappointing. To me the sin lies with the fixation of serialized television with big mystery box reveals, not in putting the most suitable thing in the mystery box.

Mutated changelings infiltrating Starfleet were more than enough of a threat to fulfill the villain quota here and were being established over the course of the season, but the style of the time is to think viewers need to have a big reveal (which they do when the show has nothing else to offer, but that's not the case here). It doesn't ruin the season for me by any means, it's just unfortunate that the writers felt compelled to do a big mystery, when such things are almost invariably disappointing and primarily serve to get audiences to tune in next week, when most viewers of this season were going to keep tuning in anyway on account of it being actually a good show. The need to end every episode on a cliffhanger (including episodes 7 and 8 infuriatingly using the same cliffhanger) is a related and similar insecurity about the show retaining its audience, and collectively these manipulations out of insecurity are the weakest point of season 3 Picard in my book overall.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

It means I'm able to put aside anything other than just enjoying a move/tvshow. I don't care about the politics all i care is: "Do i like it?" .yes or no.

Trouble is, that requires the movie to be basically good/enjoyable (like, say, Dirty Harry), and TDKR was not.

Nolan sacrificed a good story, logic, Batman-ness and convincing characters on the altar of weirdo politics.

He kept taking time out to politicise stuff - Bane's repeated ludicrous out-of-character speeches, the bizarre "rich people are our friends!" court scene (truly demented and aging extremely badly), Gordon's insane speech which had nothing to do with what was actually happening in the movie, the magical pixie cops, and so on - and it was at the cost of making a good movie, especially a good Batman movie!

I remember walking out of the movie with friends, and the general reaction was "What the hell was that?!". We'd absolutely loved The Dark Knight - absolutely stellar Batman movie - and Batman Begins was wacky but solid. Even hardcore Batfans I know were mystified by TKDR. It was particularly sad because I normally really don't like Hathaway, and she gave a good performance but the movie was just a mess.

 

[trappedslider]

Trouble is, that requires the movie to be basically good/enjoyable (like, say, Dirty Harry), and TDKR was not.

Maybe not for you but for me it was.

 

[Ryujin]

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I think that he's the key that they will use to defeat the Borg and restore everyone. Perhaps he will even gain control of the collective and they will become a Federation ally/member.

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I'm going with "heroic sacrifice. Jack takes control of The Borg and flies them all into a black hole, of something equally destructive that also kills him.