The "I Didn't Comment in Another Thread" Thread

[Parmandur]

I should clarify. I'm not saying J.R.R. Tolkien wasn't a big deal, both for the fantasy genre in general and D&D in particular.

I'm just saying that maybe the size of that influence doesn't matter. At least, not nearly as much as some of the uh, more enthusiastic commentators seem to think. (And comparing him to Shakespeare is...certainly a choice.) The thing is: not everyone enjoys Tolkien's books. And that's fine! To argue that someone is wrong about that opinion, and to insist that they do, actually, enjoy Tolkien because they enjoy other derivative works (including D&D)...is just weird.

Well, the argument dates back to attempts to play down the influence Tolkien had on the game for corporate BS reasons, not trying to overemphasized the influence.

Comparing Tolkien to Shakespeare is appropriate when discussing Engliah Fantasy literature, and arguably Engliah literature (given 500 years, it will cease being controversial).

 

[Cadence]

To another thread...

Most of my fifth grade class in northern Illinois in 1980-81 would have been surprised to hear that deacription of it.

 

[J.Quondam]

So, miracle whip or mayonnaise?

What context? Pizza or lubrication?

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

What context? Pizza or lubrication?

It depends on where you're shoving the pizza!

 

[CleverNickName]

What context? Pizza or lubrication?

Why not both? Like maybe a pilsner?

 

[Parmandur]

Mayonaise,but I have to be careful, because I can't do soybean oil or it will feel like lubricant straight from Hell on the other end.

 

[Gradine]

 

[prabe]

I should clarify. I'm not saying J.R.R. Tolkien wasn't a big deal, both for the fantasy genre in general and D&D in particular.

I'm just saying that maybe that influence doesn't matter. At least, not nearly as much as some of the uh, more enthusiastic commentators seem to think. (And comparing him to Shakespeare is...certainly a choice.) The thing is: not everyone enjoys Tolkien's books. And that's fine! To argue that someone is wrong about that opinion, and to insist that they do, actually, enjoy Tolkien because they enjoy other derivative works (including D&D)...is just weird.

Guy: Meh, I don't really care for JRR Tolkien. He's too wordy and boring.
Other Guy: You play D&D, right? So you obviously like Tolkien, you just don't know it yet!
Me: Whut?

TL;DR: You can fully enjoy D&D and Terry Brooks and "A Game of Thrones" and etc., all without ever reading "The Hobbit."

You can enjoy D&D without much liking most Fantasy fiction. I do.

 

[CleverNickName]

So, miracle whip or mayonnaise?

I kinda like both, but with a huge asterisk.*

As a condiment (like a leftover turkey sandwich) I prefer regular mayo. Not very much of it, either...just a thin layer on one slice of bread will do fine. But as a recipe ingredient (like potato salad) I prefer Miracle Whip because I appreciate the extra boost of flavor.

*I do not want either of these emulsions on hamburgers, hot dogs, pizza, anything that is served warm. Warm mayonnaise is revolting.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I kinda like both, but with a huge asterisk.*

As a condiment (like a turkey sandwich) I prefer regular mayo. Not very much of it, either...just a thin layer on one slice of bread. But as a recipe ingredient (like potato salad) I prefer Miracle Whip.

*I do not want either of these emulsions on hamburgers, hot dogs, pizza, anything that is served warm. Warm mayonnaise is revolting.

Same.

Except I prefer mayo for food, and miracle whip for bathing.