D&D (2024) Lawful, Chaotic, and Neutral touched species.

[Scribe]

Neutral is the fulcrum alignment. It represents balance between moral and ethical points of view.

Yeah, in how I look at them, I just dont really dig it. I'd go with 'Unaligned' first, probably.

 

[Corinnguard]

How is Neutral different than Unaligned?

 

[Vaalingrade]

How is Neutral different than Unaligned?

Neutral is an actual 'side' in the divinity measuring contest that is the Outer Planes. Unaligned is saying 'leave me alone, I don't care' to all that jazz.

 

[Scribe]

How is Neutral different than Unaligned?

To me, just my own thoughts and view.

Neutral - Declares FOR something. "I am this thing."
Unaligned - Declares NOT. "I am not these things."

 

[Frozen_Heart]

Aren't dragonborn the 'neutral' species in a way. Fizban's talks about how dragons are manifestations of the material plane itself, so in a way you could treat dragonborn like aasimar and tieflings.

Though it doesn't really work that well as they're not something which can be applied to any species unlike planetouched, and they don't even embody the characteristics of dragons very well.

I do kinda wish that half-dragon was rebalanced as a player species.

 

[Corinnguard]

Though it doesn't really work that well as they're not something which can be applied to any species unlike planetouched, and they don't even embody the characteristics of dragons very well.

Would the 3e Dragonborn be more like the planetouched then? curious Unlike the 4e and 5e versions of the Dragonborn, this version could be applied to any species that agreed to serve Bahamut during the Dragonfall War.

 

[CreamCloud0]

How is Neutral different than Unaligned?

my understanding of it was that neutral beings have taken a middle stance whereas unaligned beings aren't aware enough to comprehend the moral choice presented or taking a side in it.

 

[CreamCloud0]

For me, it is important to define the Alignments as ethical concepts.

"Lawful" means self-identifying with a group.

"Chaos" means self-identifying as individuals.

Law and Chaos as ethics, have little or nothing to do with mathematical predictability or randomness.

inserts the monty python's life of brian [crowd: 'yes, we are all individuals' single person: 'i'm not'] scene for allignment logicbomb

 

[Celebrim]

my understanding of it was that neutral beings have taken a middle stance whereas unaligned beings aren't aware enough to comprehend the moral choice presented or taking a side in it.

Unpopular opinion, but it's just based on a poor understanding of what neutrality means and overly narrow approaches to what alignment describes.

If it were true that being balanced between two options was significantly different than being passive to those two options, then we would need to distinguish between Neutral Good and Unaligned Good. The fact that they only did so with respect to True Neutrality suggests that they think that a True Nuetral Druid believes that Nature is somehow missing the point or that he himself is not properly in tune with nature.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

And that fiend hailed from one of the Lower Planes, which embodies a particular kind of evil. Unlike a fiend, however, a Tiefling can embody a non-evil alignment if they wanted to.

Okay. I’m not sure what point you’re making.

I suppose I should point out that the alignment planes make me cringe to begin with.

my understanding of it was that neutral beings have taken a middle stance whereas unaligned beings aren't aware enough to comprehend the moral choice presented or taking a side in it.

Unaligned is also for intelligent and aware beings who aren’t concerned with cosmic struggles. So, primal spirits are mostly unaligned, as are just the vast majority of mortals.