D&D 5E Planescape shows up in the wild. Tease from Chris Perkins.

[Scribe]

Even just 10 years ago was worse than today, although the rate of change seems to have been stifled a bit lately.

10 years ago was vastly better than today.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I am fine with more art and lore so I liked Ravenloft, even if they removed alignments, it's not like I cannot just ignore that part of the book. Especially if it means more miniatures. Now I have miniatures of so many Darklords from Ravenloft that I never had dreamed before.
Honestly I am the same way with this as I am with Star Trek. Is all modern Star Trek good? Not by a long shot. But I take some good, some bad over NOTHING which is what we had after Enterprise ended, for about 15 years. Same goes for Planescape. (And I know some people will mention that third party Planebreaker stuff, I read it, it ain't no Sigil and the Great Wheel, sorry...)

Also, I guess the mods on this board are very lenient with multiposting, but you ever heard of the edit button? I see 4-5 posts of yours right one after the other with nobody posting inbetween. There is a neater way to just add your replies to multiple people in ONE post, you know.

I don't really know how to do that to be honest. And I really don't appreciate the implication that the mods should get involved because you don't like the way I post.

 

[Parmandur]

It's actually just wistful emotions for the past, mostly looking through rose colored glasses and unable to see or acknowledge the flaws of the past. it is thinking Goonies was good because you loved it as a kid.

Spoiler: it is not a good movie.

Fun fact: the term nostalgia was coined in the 17th century by a Swiss doctor who worked among Swiss mercenaries, to describe what we would now call PTSD symptoms.

 

[Birmy]

I don't really know how to do that to be honest. And I really don't appreciate the implication that the mods should get involved because you don't like the way I post.

There's a "+ Quote" option at the bottom of each post that lets you add quotes from the post to a queue you can draw from. You can do it for any number of users you want to reply to. You can then click "Insert quotes..." under your reply window to choose which ones you want to use.

The net effect is that you can reply to multiple users via a single new post, which is cleaner than replying individually and avoids the effect that @BB Shockwave is noticing of a rush of replies by the same user, each of them addressing a different post.

 

[Demetrios1453]

And here I am expecting the Planescape news to be posted in the existing Planescape topic...

Yeah the DiTerlizzi art makes this a hard choice but ultimately, I will go with his covers... the interior art is new anyway, so I will get that and I guess I can live without having the new cover art.

And that is a bad thing... how? When Hasbro made a big live action movie out of Transformers, they brought back Peter Cullen to voice Optimus Prime. When Rocksteady made the Arkham games, they hired Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to voice Batman and Joker.
Of course when there is someone who is still alive today, who is associated - positively - with past material, then any publisher would prefer to get said somebody involved, because they usually were part of the reason for that property's success. It's such a no-brainer, Illithids would go hungry.


Honestly if you expect it to be bad, and declare it to be so even before reading any of it... why are you even here just being a contrarian? Don't tell me all these 14 pages contain no actual news, just bickering back and forth.
I can relate, I am a Transformers fan and I hated Michael Bay's movies (at least the first 3, they started getting better once he fired Shia), so you know what I did? After saying my piece about the movies, I just left those discussions and moved on with my life instead of wasting my time arguing with people I never actually met.

It's very baffling to me why some posters do this. I have a million better ways to spend my time than submitting dozens of posts in a thread over something I don't like. I would be like one or two posts to get the point across (if even that), and then find something more fun to do.

But in any case, once Phandelver is in stores next week, the marketing focus will be on this release, and I can't wait to see more previews! Hopefully we'll get more art and some more peeks into the bestiary.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

With the nostalgia we only remember the best parts. For example I am mature and I can remember in my memory the best songs from the 80's, but really lots of them weren't so good.

I love the D&D cartoon, and it is my favorite, but if I watch it again I can realise the art wasn't so good like titles from later decades.

Nostalgia may be a good bait for marketing strategy, but not always. D&D enjoys now its maximum popularity, but the people who played it in the first decades were a little minority.

Some times I imagine no-FR settings with a vintage style. Dragolance would be Elmore, Clyde Cadwell and other classic D&D artists. Mystara would be 80's retro. Greyhawk would be 90's and 3-3.5 Age. Nentir Vale would be 2010's.

D&D needs a new generation of players, and here then nostalgia can't be the right bait. Maybe it should be designed to be multigenerational, parents can enjoy with their children, and being ideologically neutral, because when you support a side, you can lose at least the other half.

* I wonder if the world tree could be the "home" of the wood elementals. Are these as "plant" monster type?

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Earlier it was mentioned that new players aren't interested in the "deep lore" of a setting.

that's sad.

Having recently read the old Faerun Grey box stuff and how almost EVERY SINGLE PARAGRAPH brought up adventure ideas. Reading it was SO FUN. And for a DM a wealth of ideas.

But I guess if all you need is a premade adventure thats one and done in that land, more power to you. I can't express how knowing MORE about the realm I run as enhanced even premade adventures.

Recently after reading one of the new Dragonlance novels, that helped me create a Red Robed owned magic item shop which the players loved.

I am not sure who has said new players are not interested in the setting lore. But I don't think it's true.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Wasn't there a poll recently that said Homebrew was the least used? Or at least no where near people running Faerun and Raveloft games.

No? I have never heard of such a poll. Was it here, with our 5 people and very non-representative sample?

Because the wotc survey data has always been that most groups by far run homebrew.

FR was a fairly distant second place, and then literally everything else was minuscule numbers in comparison to FR, much less homebrew.

Homebrew is, and has always been, king.

10 years ago was vastly better than today.

Man thinking back to 2013…I mean, maybe politically in the US, I guess?

But I doubt sick people in Sierra Leone would agree. Or Tuberculosis patients in developing nations. Or pregnant women nearly everywhere in the world. Or a thousand other demographically intersections whose lot has improved so dramatically in 10 years that it’s like living in a different world.

Also the music sucked.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I am not sure who has said new players are not interested in the setting lore. But I don't think it's true.

It's really weird claim that a number of people have made over the last 10 years, and I've never seen a shred of actual support for it.

Indeed, on the precise contrary, I've seen a ton of evidence that a lot of players get in D&D "lore-first", rather than because they think the rules are cool or something. People don't become obsessed with Critical Role despite the lore - it's a big part of why they do. Even before that, novels and games and so on, often interest people in D&D settings because of the settings and the lore, not because of the D&D rules.

I don't think everyone does - but I don't think anyone has made any kind of logical or supportable case that "kids today" or "new players" don't like lore. I would continue to suggest the contrary, based on the people I've seen wanting to play D&D. It's about the same proportion as ever.

 

[Scribe]

Also the music sucked.

This may be true, I'd have to look at what I'm listening to right now and see where it was at 10 years ago. There was a dip though in the 2010's I think...