D&D 5E Planescape shows up in the wild. Tease from Chris Perkins.

[doctorbadwolf]

Nah, because the past was never as good as we remember it to be.

I am continuously perplexed by nostalgia. Why on Earth would I want to return to a past decade!? The past is largely terrible!

Even just 10 years ago was worse than today, although the rate of change seems to have been stifled a bit lately.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Earlier it was mentioned that new players aren't interested in the "deep lore" of a setting.

that's sad.

Having recently read the old Faerun Grey box stuff and how almost EVERY SINGLE PARAGRAPH brought up adventure ideas. Reading it was SO FUN. And for a DM a wealth of ideas.

But I guess if all you need is a premade adventure thats one and done in that land, more power to you. I can't express how knowing MORE about the realm I run as enhanced even premade adventures.

Recently after reading one of the new Dragonlance novels, that helped me create a Red Robed owned magic item shop which the players loved.

The bolded text isn’t what the alternative actually is. It’s not about running one premade adventure, it’s about two things:

1) stealing ideas for homebrew worlds

2) Filling in the blanks yourselves

 

[BB Shockwave]

And here I am expecting the Planescape news to be posted in the existing Planescape topic...

I do too, but the store-only special edition edges the other one out for me.

Yeah the DiTerlizzi art makes this a hard choice but ultimately, I will go with his covers... the interior art is new anyway, so I will get that and I guess I can live without having the new cover art.

I'm sorry, I honestly thought that's what you meant by that. I have nothing against him or his artwork, I just don't see WotC using him for any other reason than to entice old Planescape fans, and since his art style has changed, that benefit is to some degree disingenuous.

And that is a bad thing... how? When Hasbro made a big live action movie out of Transformers, they brought back Peter Cullen to voice Optimus Prime. When Rocksteady made the Arkham games, they hired Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to voice Batman and Joker.
Of course when there is someone who is still alive today, who is associated - positively - with past material, then any publisher would prefer to get said somebody involved, because they usually were part of the reason for that property's success. It's such a no-brainer, Illithids would go hungry.

I expect there are plenty of things in the actual text (far more important than any art to me) that I won't like.

Honestly if you expect it to be bad, and declare it to be so even before reading any of it... why are you even here just being a contrarian? Don't tell me all these 14 pages contain no actual news, just bickering back and forth.
I can relate, I am a Transformers fan and I hated Michael Bay's movies (at least the first 3, they started getting better once he fired Shia), so you know what I did? After saying my piece about the movies, I just left those discussions and moved on with my life instead of wasting my time arguing with people I never actually met.

 

[Alzrius]

Nah, because the past was never as good as we remember it to be.

Never say never.

 

[Birmy]

In an attempt to change the tenor of this thread a bit, I'll just say that I'm looking forward to seeing what's in this release. Planescape is more or less a blank slate for me. In the 2e era I was pretty much all-in on the Forgotten Realms (though I flirted with Dragonlance) and I didn't have a computer capable of running Planescape: Torment, so my exposure to the setting was limited to ogling the weird art in the TSR catalogues and on the shelves at Waldenbooks.

So I'll be going in mostly blind here. I'm interested to see how it stands on its own terms, since it's one of the few major settings I don't have any preconceived notions about (or not much beyond "I know what a modron is").

 

[Micah Sweet]

Never say never.

I certainly think past versions of the D&D rules are better in many ways than some current versions.

 

[BB Shockwave]

WotC is pretty much guaranteed to be unable to do it justice based simply on the format. It is going to be necessarily shallow given the page count it has and how those pages are going to be distributed. This is known.

Guess you did not listen to that Perkins interview, back in July I think.
He explains they do not even want to just do ALL the setting remastered in one go. They are trying to flesh out the Outlands more since the 2E Planescape books did not elaborate that area that much. And, as they explained, they totally plan on revisiting settings they brought back for 5E (Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Spelljammer, Eberron, Planescape) in the future during the 6E/One era, with the groundwork laid, to create new adventures and lore books for them.

Understandable? When this is likely going to be one and done, also yeah.

Not really. See that interview. They mean to revisit these settings later and make new adventures and books for it in the new "edition" since the 5E stuff is now compatible with that.

 

[DarkCrisis]

The bolded text isn’t what the alternative actually is. It’s not about running one premade adventure, it’s about two things:

1) stealing ideas for homebrew worlds

2) Filling in the blanks yourselves

Wasn't there a poll recently that said Homebrew was the least used? Or at least no where near people running Faerun and Raveloft games.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Guess you did not listen to that Perkins interview, back in July I think.
He explains they do not even want to just do ALL the setting remastered in one go. They are trying to flesh out the Outlands more since the 2E Planescape books did not elaborate that area that much. And, as they explained, they totally plan on revisiting settings they brought back for 5E (Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Spelljammer, Eberron, Planescape) in the future during the 6E/One era, with the groundwork laid, to create new adventures and lore books for them.

Well, given the setting work they've done so far, why would I want more of it? When they decided to make more Ravenloft, we received VRGtR, literally the biggest disappointment of my gaming career.

 

[BB Shockwave]

Well, given the setting work they've done so far, why would I want more of it? When they decided to make more Ravenloft, we received VRGtR, literally the biggest disappointment of my gaming career.

I am fine with more art and lore so I liked Ravenloft, even if they removed alignments, it's not like I cannot just ignore that part of the book. Especially if it means more miniatures. Now I have miniatures of so many Darklords from Ravenloft that I never had dreamed before.
Honestly I am the same way with this as I am with Star Trek. Is all modern Star Trek good? Not by a long shot. But I take some good, some bad over NOTHING which is what we had after Enterprise ended, for about 15 years. Same goes for Planescape. (And I know some people will mention that third party Planebreaker stuff, I read it, it ain't no Sigil and the Great Wheel, sorry...)

Also, I guess the mods on this board are very lenient with multiposting, but you ever heard of the edit button? I see 4-5 posts of yours right one after the other with nobody posting inbetween. There is a neater way to just add your replies to multiple people in ONE post, you know.