D&D 5E Check Out Planescape's Table of Contents & More!

Brandes Stoddard has received a copy of Planescape: Adventures in the Multiverse (which come out in two weeks!) and is posting loads of photos over on Blue Sky. You can check out his feed for the whole treasure trove--here's a look at the table of contents.

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Thanks for proving yourself wrong. The outlands is a plane, which you just quote me as saying is there. Further, Sigil is also on the planes, so that too is me saying there is planar information. Even further, I mention the gate towns, which are on the planes whether you want to try and attribute them completely to the Outlands or if you rightly attribute them mostly to the planes that manifest extremely strongly within them.
 

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Wow, I'm glade I never picked up the original - this would have killed the setting for me. I certainly hope the new book doesn't take this approach. I was excited to get this book - but now you have me concerned. I guess I will check it out in person first to make sure!
The gate towns are so close to the border that they take on the "personalities" of the plane they border, which makes a lot of sense. They occasionally fall completely into the neighboring plane when they achieve close to 100%. At that point another town takes its place and is the "personality" factor is significantly lower and then begins to rise as the town moves closer and closer to the outer plane in question.
 


To follow up on this, Sigil and the Factions get 43 pages in the original 2e set, compared to 45 here, and that's with, again, 2e's larger font.
And how many pages do the outerplanes other than the Outlands get in the 2e set compared to the 0 in the 5e set? And of course the Outlands gets more than 4 pages in the 2e set, outside of the gate towns. And more factions are detailed in the 2e set. And the 2e set gives setting advice on building planescape adventures, which the 5e setting doesn't do. And the 2e set places more gods onto various specific planes as home than the 5 setting does. And...

But hey, you get a couple more pages on Sigil in the 5e setting!!
 

The gate towns are so close to the border that they take on the "personalities" of the plane they border, which makes a lot of sense. They occasionally fall completely into the neighboring plane when they achieve close to 100%. At that point another town takes its place and is the "personality" factor is significantly lower and then begins to rise as the town moves closer and closer to the outer plane in question.
His problem was not what you posted, but how it was, as in universe opinions with the cant.
 

His problem was not what you posted, but how it was, as in universe opinions with the cant.
It was not an in universe opinion, despite the cant. That was DM information about the gate towns. The style of writing was to use the cant for everything, whether it was an objective DM truth or in-universe opinion. The use of the cant doesn't inherently make it an in universe opinion. The gate towns ARE that way. They DID fall into the neighboring planes because of it.
 

And how many pages do the outerplanes other than the Outlands get in the 2e set compared to the 0 in the 5e set? And of course the Outlands gets more than 4 pages in the 2e set, outside of the gate towns. And more factions are detailed in the 2e set. And the 2e set gives setting advice on building planescape adventures, which the 5e setting doesn't do. And the 2e set places more gods onto various specific planes as home than the 5 setting does. And...

But hey, you get a couple more pages on Sigil in the 5e setting!!
The gall that saying Gatetowns don’t count as either the Outlands or other outer planes is making your posts unbearable.

The original set was pretty bad at getting its points across so the pages about the Outlands took a while to say very little.
 

The gall that saying Gatetowns don’t count as either the Outlands or other outer planes is making your posts unbearable.
Excellent, because I never said either of those things. Really, I haven't.
The original set was pretty bad at getting its points across so the pages about the Outlands took a while to say very little.
I agree, but it's still more than you can get from 4 pages in the 5e setting. The cant was cool sometimes, but an irritation others times.
 

The gall that saying Gatetowns don’t count as either the Outlands or other outer planes is making your posts unbearable.

The original set was pretty bad at getting its points across so the pages about the Outlands took a while to say very little.
I agree that they should count as either one or the other. But if you don't like the writing, just say so. Its only ever going to be preference, and I'm quite fond of it personally.
 

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