D&D General Is DnD being mothballed?

[Remathilis]

That's just it though. WotC released 5e years ago through the OGL, and just made it even more accessible through the CC this year. There is no reason to support them any longer if you don't like what they're doing now.

And yet people still sit and rag on WotC at every opportunity for some reason.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Did the 3.0 books have miniature diagrams in it? Wasn’t that part of it, 3.5 had more emphasis on tactical mini play.

3e actually had more mini diagrams in it as you had thins like Long Large creatures and such. 3.5 actually simplified down the tactical game.

 

[Kurotowa]

Most D&D YouTubers are garbage. I hit "do not recommend this channel" on any that do the doom thumbnails.

Outrage sells. Outrage drives view counts and engagement and pleases the almighty Algorithm. There's a heavy selection bias in favor of becoming a full time Outrage Merchant, turning every misstep or rumor into a 20 minute long sermon on why the current team have sold out to [objectionable social group here] and betrayed the legacy of their predecessors and ruined everything.

I saw it happen to coverage of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm seeing it happen to coverage of Final Fantasy XIV now that it's passed a popularity threshold. And it's happening to D&D as well. Outrage sells, and Whizbang has the right of it. Don't engage, don't click or link, and block any channel that breaks out the easily identifiable Outrage template thumbnail.

 

[Zardnaar]

Outrage sells. Outrage drives view counts and engagement and pleases the almighty Algorithm. There's a heavy selection bias in favor of becoming a full time Outrage Merchant, turning every misstep or rumor into a 20 minute long sermon on why the current team have sold out to [objectionable social group here] and betrayed the legacy of their predecessors and ruined everything.

I saw it happen to coverage of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm seeing it happen to coverage of Final Fantasy XIV now that it's passed a popularity threshold. And it's happening to D&D as well. Outrage sells, and Whizbang has the right of it. Don't engage, don't click or link, and block any channel that breaks out the easily identifiable Outrage template thumbnail.

Think only channel I'm subscribed to is Dungeon Dudes.

We like their tier list stuff.

If 5.5 "flops" I'm expecting a more 2E vs 1E trajectory vs a collapse. Eventually you hit saturation point and the bubble deflates.

 

[Stormonu]

I think so, that and the earlier 3.0 adventures, to me, have a different feel to them compared to some of the later ones. I could be totally off base though. I was largely absent from 3.x era.

Oh yeah, the adventures were different in 3.5. There weren't any (generic). And damn the delve format that they eventually settled on just prior to 4E.

Also, late 3.5 REALLY took a bend when the 2nd series of Completes/PHB/DMG/MM IV+/Tome Of ... came out. Looking back you can really see they were experimenting for 4E.

I somehow managed to keep up with the pace of books were coming out, but it was way too much to try and incorporate even half into the game. Usually, you might see one or two items from a book show up in a campaign if you were lucky.

I have to admit I did like several of the ideas in the experimental books like Tome of Magic and Magic of Incarnum, and the Stormwrack/Sandstorm/Frostburn/Cityscape books really opened my eyes to contemplating some unusual fantasy terrain (Dungeonscape was a dud in my eyes though).

 

[Stormonu]

Think only channel I'm subscribed to is Dungeon Dudes.

We like their tier list stuff.

If 5.5 "flops" I'm expecting a more 2E vs 1E trajectory vs a collapse. Eventually you hit saturation point and the bubble deflates.

The curse of the half/even editions. It's like the inverse of Star Trek.

 

[Zardnaar]

The curse of the half/even editions. It's like the inverse of Star Trek.

That to. Very small sample size though and we only remember the "main" line 1E to 5E.

We now know each edition sold less than the one before it except 5E and maybe 3.5 to 4E,pattern holds 3.0 to 4E apparently.

3.0 perception though it sold more/didn't destroy the company.

I knew this ten years ago but couldn't source it reliably (well not the 5E part the trajectory part).

 

[mamba]

To me the most interesting part of what rheybare doing is the rules-free DM adjudication making it essentially a playmat and minis: that means you could use it to run the 3E Chainmail or the OG 60's Chainmail by the book just as easily as 5E D&D.

just as easily if you use it as a playmat, and nothing else, instead of using the features it offers, along with the classes, the monster statblocks and so forth. Either you type all that in from scratch, or keep track on a piece of paper, probably the latter.

5e D&D will have a lot more support and automation than that, and you have to forgo it all to claim this ‘just as easily’

 

[Micah Sweet]

And yet people still sit and rag on WotC at every opportunity for some reason.

They still control the D&D IP, and the vast majority of the entire industry. Its understandable to be somewhat irritated with their activities if you don't like them, given that fact. Hard to ignore that big a gorilla if you want to engage in the community.

 

[Parmandur]

just as easily if you use it as a playmat, and nothing else, instead of using the features it offers, along with the classes, the monster statblocks and so forth. Either you type all that in from scratch, or keep track on a piece of paper, probably the latter.

5e D&D will have a lot more support and automation than that, and you have to forgo it all to claim this ‘just as easily’

That's the thing, though, they have been showing off the extent to which it is not automated.