D&D (2024) Here's The New 2024 Player's Handbook Wizard Art

 

[mamba]

Disability justice is about recognizing that having a disability doesn't make your experience with life worse, just different.

I don’t know, disabilities do make life worse to me, I’d go as far as considering that an objective fact. They do not make the person worth less as a human however.

 

[mamba]

As far as I know, critiques can be positive. Or bad. Or both. Or neutral.

critiques can be, a criticism cannot… they supposedly criticized the art, they did not critique it

 

[mamba]

But, here's the thing. His criticism was entirely personal and made no broader claims. Which is perfectly fine. No one is going to question this.

But, "the pose is awful"? "she really doesn't convey the concept of "wizard" in any way at all IMO."? Those are pretty bold statements that are hardly immune to response.

I am not sure why a criticism would have to be immune to response…

 

[Hussar]

I am not sure why a criticism would have to be immune to response…

Because the person making the criticism has repeatedly gone on to state, "well, this is just my opinion" Even:

I'm not going to say why, because I don't have to.

That being my point. A criticism doesn't to be immune to response. But, if you make statements of opinion as statements of fact, don't get huffy when people start to question the source of your opinion.

 

[Older Beholder]

For me, I like art that inspires the imagination.
That the image would work for a cleric or divine sorcerer as well as a wizard is a strength.
That it could be any number of spells being cast (or magic effects happening) excites my mind.

It also makes me think of the Rennala boss fight in Elden Ring.

 

[Gradine]

I don’t know, disabilities do make life worse to me, I’d go as far as considering that an objective fact. They do not make the person worth less as a human however.

The idea is that it is not the disability that causes difficulty, but that it is the way that society is by and large designed towards accommodating the primarily able-bodied, often to the exclusion of the disabled. A theoretically more just society would be as simple to live in and navigate for someone with a disability as someone who is not.

Of course there's a lot of nuance surrounding the degree of accommodations necessary, and the differences between those born with a disability and those disabled by injury or illness. I've had hearing problems all my life, but I'm also someone who values my sense of hearing; music in particular is very important to me. If I were to end up deafened I would do anything I could to restore that sense. But there is also a reason why "cures" such as cochlear implants are much more controversial in the communities of those born deaf. Or talk to folks with autism about how they feel about the search for a "cure".

I could (and have) dive deep, deep down the rabbit hole of disability justice, but to go much further would likely be outside the scope of this thread, if not this forum as a whole.

Long story short: it's complicated, structural ableism is a greater impediment to most disabled people than their actual disabilities are, and opinions within disabled communities are much if not more varied than those without. There is no objective, one size fits all idea

 

[UngeheuerLich]

critiques can be, a criticism cannot… they supposedly criticized the art, they did not critique it

I had to look up the difference.
In German both words are the same for example: "Kritik".

 

[pemerton]

I had to look up the difference.
In German both words are the same for example: "Kritik".

I associate "critique" with the post-Kantian tradition in German philosophy. (As translated into English - I don't speak or read German.)

"Criticism" I think of as meaning either (i) negative remarks about something/someone, or (ii) analysis of the sort that a (food, art, literary, etc) critic engages in. In the second sense, criticism need not be negative.

 

[Guest 7037866]

Please don't leave, this thread will never reach 2000 posts without you!

Frankly, I was sort of hoping that.

But, if you make statements of opinion as statements of fact, don't get huffy when people start to question the source of your opinion.

Ah, but you see, I didn't make anything remotely like a "statement of fact" and I don't see why you think I have. Yes, everything I've said I've either said was my opinion, or it was implied since, well, this is all simply peoples' opinions about the image.

Which is why I take issue with the amount of pushback all this has generated. People have said things amounting to "I like the image" without giving any reason why (of course, many have said why...), but you don't really see others pushing back on their opinions, do you, even though they might not agree with it? At worse, you might have someone responding, "I don't care for it myself" in response to the "I like the image" opinions.

Anyway, I'll leave it at that. You can blame @MNblockhead for my reply. I just felt I owed it to help get one post closer to 2000. (j/k)

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Some people seem to think that because something is "only" an opinion, then it doesn't matter. Pretty much all human decision making, kindest acts, the worst atrocities, is based upon opinions. Facts rarely have anything to do with it.