Spoilers Star Wars: The Acolyte [Spoilers]

Calling out continuous poor writing in the live action SW stuff is not “toxic.” I did not focus any one one person.

Calling legit criticism toxic is just used to label and dismiss opinions people do not like. It is a tactic used to seize some moral high ground.

The writing is just poor. There were 2 of 8 decent episodes in Ahsoka. 2ish in Book. Mando maybe a 3-4 per season. He needed regular companions who could talk.

Obi was the same with a couple of good episodes.

Yet any time some criticizes it, you have people rush to use the toxic label which is exactly what happened here.

Of course, then you get the “why watch.” Or too bad you’re not 4 any more as if that is not “toxic.”
Again, if you watched three different series, sometimes with several seasons, and hated virtually all of it, I don't think it's particularly toxic to ask why you continue to watch. And, while I get that you don't like the writing, that doesn't make it poor. You claim that your criticism is legit without actually establishing that it is, in fact, legit. Just because you don't like it hardly makes it a legitimate criticism.

After all, you criticise the writing of Andor - a show that was nominated for an Emmy for it's writing. 🤷
 

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Episode 3 was very good. Im getting (in a good way?) a Medieval Church vibe from the Jedi. Now I want Spaceballs: The Inquisitortion!!"

And I enjoyed seeing a different Force Tradition. Could you say, Darth Sidious learnt these techniques to say make a Vader?
 

Episode 3 was very good. Im getting (in a good way?) a Medieval Church vibe from the Jedi. Now I want Spaceballs: The Inquisitortion!!"

And I enjoyed seeing a different Force Tradition. Could you say, Darth Sidious learnt these techniques to say make a Vader?

It's been heavily hinted at in New canon Palpatine and Plageous to do exactly that.
 

Episode three was great. I'm mostly avoiding the thread, because I just want to talk about what we know, not all the stuff from outside the show....
 

I didn't have high hopes when episode 3 started. A flashback from their childhood? Oy. But that was pretty damn good.

The Jedi are... Bester's Psi-Corp from Babylon 5?

The coven of witches are using the Dark Side? Is that bad? Loved that they literally were drawing down the one of the moons.

The Jedi have feelings. Good.

The structure was interesting. The audience isn't shown what happened on Brendok clearly, but we're clearly shown more than the characters can or will admit to themselves (except possibly for Sol).

The Acolyte doesn't shout quality from every frame like Andor, and there's no Baby Yoda, but so far, so good.
 
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For a stone structure, that place was certainly a fire-trap.

It mostly seems like things played out much as had been previously described, but how did the witches actually die? The corpses didn't look particularly burned, and the compound was very open-plan, so suffocation seems unlikely. Did bits of it explode?
 

For a stone structure, that place was certainly a fire-trap.

It mostly seems like things played out much as had been previously described, but how did the witches actually die? The corpses didn't look particularly burned, and the compound was very open-plan, so suffocation seems unlikely. Did bits of it explode?
The implication is that they died by lightsaber.
 

For a stone structure, that place was certainly a fire-trap.

It mostly seems like things played out much as had been previously described, but how did the witches actually die? The corpses didn't look particularly burned, and the compound was very open-plan, so suffocation seems unlikely. Did bits of it explode?
I'm expecting more flashbacks to add more perspective to what happened. Nothing I've seen so far explains why a Jedi would willingly drink poison. There's more to the story.
 

The implication is that they died by lightsaber.
The Jedi story that they died by fire is obviously false, so the episode is strongly implying that they were killed by the Jedi. Torbin's willingness to drink poison after 10 years of isolation is also indicating a strong amount of guilt.

That means there's probably another underlying cause here. Mae's uncharacteristic arson (she was acting almost hypnotized) points to some Dark Side influence within the coven itself.

I'm hoping the Jedi actually did something really bad, mostly because it would be an interesting new take. But I'm betting the Dark Side agent(s) did something to either manipulate the Jedi into attacking the coven, or somehow forced their hands. And there's still an outside chance the Jedi weren't actually involved in the massacre.
 

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