Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Snarf Zagyg]

@Snarf Zagyg And the Cup drought for Canada continues. What's worse, getting swept in 4 games or coming back from being down 3-0 to lose 2-1 in game 7?

IMO McDavid winning the Conn Smythe just adds more to the narrative of "man, Edmonton is really going to waste the prime years of arguably the best player in NHL history huh".

Woe Canada!
Our imaginary land!
Tim Horton love, eat donuts they command.
With saddened hearts we see hockey on TV,.
The Stanley Cup shall go to ..... checks notes .... Miami!

 

[Bedrockgames]

Hmm, better retention with physical media seems strange to me. I am the exact opposite. Actually, now that I think about it, my job would be impossible to do with physical media. From an aesthetic and nostalgic perspective on a hobby I understand the preference.

My understanding is there is some research to support this idea. But I am no expert and people probably have very different individual experiences with it, so I would say look at the information out there and decide for yourself. I will add, I was also very skeptical. I had switched almost entirely to digital books. And while I had noticed I wasn't retaining information as well in recent years (something I pay attention to because a lot of my reading is for research purposes), I chalked it up mostly to getting older. However after reading some articles on the topic I decided to try making a switch and the difference was night and day. I don't think it was just nostalgia. The studies I read put the difference at much greater than the 3-4 times I suggested. And they offered a number of reasons but one of them, which I do find compelling, was that your brain physically indexes the information as it reads a physical book (you may not be remembering the literal pages but something about knowing where you are when you learn the information is helpful). I am not sure if this is what is at play here (maybe it is just the reduced screen distraction). But the difference to me is when I read digital I don't feel like I am sponging up the info the way I do when I read a physical book.

 

[RealAlHazred]

There's something about a physical book, though. For instance, my dog-eared copy of that heartwarming, feel-good book, Old Yeller, that I got from my teacher in the 80s gives me a fuzzy feeling of nostalgia. So what if the last chapter or so of the book is missing -- you can get the gist of where it was going from the rest of it! Going back to reread passages of the warm relationship between the dog and the protagonist, you get a far richer experience than any PDF, I'm sure!

 

[Alzrius]

PDFs are nice when I'm searching for a specific passage and can just ctrl+f it, but otherwise I prefer physical books.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

There's something about a physical book, though. For instance, my dog-eared copy of that heartwarming, feel-good book, Old Yeller, that I got from my teacher in the 80s gives me a fuzzy feeling of nostalgia. So what if the last chapter or so of the book is missing --

I mean, Old Yeller without the last chapter or so is a MUCH MORE heartwarming story.

Unless you are a certain individual who was in the news recently. Then you're like, "They took out the BEST PART!"

 

[payn]

My understanding is there is some research to support this idea. But I am no expert and people probably have very different individual experiences with it, so I would say look at the information out there and decide for yourself. I will add, I was also very skeptical. I had switched almost entirely to digital books. And while I had noticed I wasn't retaining information as well in recent years (something I pay attention to because a lot of my reading is for research purposes), I chalked it up mostly to getting older. However after reading some articles on the topic I decided to try making a switch and the difference was night and day. I don't think it was just nostalgia. The studies I read put the difference at much greater than the 3-4 times I suggested. And they offered a number of reasons but one of them, which I do find compelling, was that your brain physically indexes the information as it reads a physical book (you may not be remembering the literal pages but something about knowing where you are when you learn the information is helpful). I am not sure if this is what is at play here (maybe it is just the reduced screen distraction). But the difference to me is when I read digital I don't feel like I am sponging up the info the way I do when I read a physical book.

There is definitely a change in how folks process information. Digital has ushered in a tactical communication style in that folks get only the info they need. For example, if your dryer breaks down, you can easily find info on fixing the heating element, without having to read an entire repair module or have experience with building and maintaining appliances in general. The ease of parsing out what you need while leaving the rest behind has hurt over all retention. As you forget everything you learned as soon as the dryer works again. If it breaks again, you just pull up the heating element page again. You never really learn to repair appliances.

Once you toss in a narrative, like that of a novel, it doesn't matter how one consumes that type of media.

 

[RealAlHazred]

I mean, Old Yeller without the last chapter or so is a MUCH MORE heartwarming story.

Unless you are a certain individual who was in the news recently. Then you're like, "They took out the BEST PART!"

My understanding is, the dog knew what he did...

/s In case it needs to be said. Frankly, humans don't deserve dogs.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Once you toss in a narrative, like that of a novel, it doesn't matter how one consumes that type of media.

I think here it differs too. I was going back to this while reading Gothic Literature and the difference it made in terms of remembering passages, understanding them, was enormous. Again, people should decide for themselves what works best, but I would suggest anyone who is curious test it out. I was very surprised by the results

 

[Bedrockgames]

There is definitely a change in how folks process information. Digital has ushered in a tactical communication style in that folks get only the info they need. For example, if your dryer breaks down, you can easily find info on fixing the heating element, without having to read an entire repair module or have experience with building and maintaining appliances in general. The ease of parsing out what you need while leaving the rest behind has hurt over all retention. As you forget everything you learned as soon as the dryer works again. If it breaks again, you just pull up the heating element page again. You never really learn to repair appliances.

I would encourage you to look at the research. Again I am not an expert, but when I was looking it up for myself, there were lots of articles and reputable studies that seemed to indicate there is a growing consensus that we retain more information when we read physical books

 

[Bedrockgames]

I mean, Old Yeller without the last chapter or so is a MUCH MORE heartwarming story.

Unless you are a certain individual who was in the news recently. Then you're like, "They took out the BEST PART!"

It is like reading A Clockwork Orange with the last chapter